The hubble takes extremely high resolution images and it is time lapsed which intensifies the light coming in dramatically. This is how we get the magnificent photos from the ground also. All you are talking about is irrelevant.
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The hubble takes extremely high resolution images and it is time lapsed which intensifies the light coming in dramatically. This is how we get the magnificent photos from the ground also. All you are talking about is irrelevant.So you are just going to ignore what every single telescope manufacturer has to say on the subject of magnification so you can continue your incorrect beliefs?
No, I think they are just making stuff up to prop up the 95% Fairie Dust they require in their theories because they think they can treat plasma like solids, liquids and gasses. And then when it doesn't match reality - start making up that 95% Fairie Dust. I think their egos prevent them from admitting they are wrong and have not a clue.
Who mentioned anything about religion except you? If I chose to accept the Big Bang theory because of religion - it would be on the top of my list, since a priest invented it.
I'm objecting on purely scientific grounds in which every single manufacturer of telescopes agrees, as does every piece of the science.
http://www.telescope-optics.net/telescope_magnification.htm
http://starizona.com/acb/basics/equip_eyepieces_understanding.aspx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnification#Measurement_of_telescope_magnification
http://www.colorado.edu/physics/phys1230/phys1230_fa01/topic40.html
"There is the usual trade-off between magnification, which increases as the focal length of the first lens is made longer and light-gathering power, which depends on the inverse of the f/number of the first lens and therefore decreases as the focal length is made longer so that the f/number is made greater."
http://old.observers.org/beginner/eyepieces.freeman.html
"Not enough light. When you look at any particular object, the amount of its light entering the front of your telescope is fixed. If you are looking at an extended object, like the surface of the Moon, or a planet, or a galaxy or nebula, then as you increase magnification, that light is spread out over an ever-greater area of the retina of your eye, so the image looks dimmer and dimmer. Spread it out too much, and it will become too dim to see at all. What's more, various kinds of fine or low-contrast detail become hard to see before the object itself vanishes."
This includes the galaxies ,of course ."In he beginning, God created the heavens and the earth" In your view, what are the heavens?
Heavens , not heaven, dear friend .But heaven was the Kingdom of God? Right?
Interesting indeed .In the beginning of the perfect physical third Heaven God brought into the physical world, from things which do not appear, the Heaven/air and the Earth/ground. But the ground was without form and void/empty and darkness/death was upon the deep/water which came from the gases in the Heaven/air. At this time, there was NO physical Earth but only ground without form/dust.
God moved/brooded on the face of the waters because of the death which was upon everything He had created APART from Himself. EVERYthing apart from God is subject to death and it moved God and He Spoke:
Let there be Light. Jesus IS the Light of the first Day and He came into the physical world from within the invisible Spirit of God. Jesus will form/shape the air, dust and water into everything which exists in the physical world and He will give life to Humans, beasts of the field and fowl of the air.
The first firmament which God called Heaven was made on the 2nd Day. Gen 1:6-8
The other firmaments/heavens (the present Cosmos and the Third Heaven) were made on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4 Amen?
Interesting indeed .
The hubble takes extremely high resolution images and it is time lapsed which intensifies the light coming in dramatically. This is how we get the magnificent photos from the ground also. All you are talking about is irrelevant.
So you are going to ignore the science then?
Yes, another that follows the Ostrich theory.
Note he number of posts . Perhaps he has taken root .Bub, listen to your own stupidity. You are suggesting that the King James TRANSLATORS "corrected" what was originally INSPIRED directly from God to the ORIGINAL writers. Do you know how idiotic that sounds? Basically, you are trying to tell me that the King James TRANSLATORS had to correct God because God wasn't sovereign enough to inspire his original authors correctly.
Considering you have obviously never studied the Bible a day in your life, it is rather laughable you are trying to argue with me, since I study it on a daily and could educate you under the table. Boastful, yes, but true nonetheless.
Just like all the science is ignoring you. I know... the moon landing was faked too.
Why would you believe the moon landing was faked?
I'm not the one trying to tell you about 95% Fairie Dust in cosmology because they refuse to treat a universe 99% plasma like plasma. You have yet to justify why I should accept treating plasma like solids, liquids and gasses; when we don't do that in any plasma laboratory on this earth - or in space?
You seem to keep forgetting the science is supporting me, not you. Whether it comes to magnification or any other cosmological topic you care to discuss.
EDIT: I accept the science, why do you ignore it?
http://starizona.com/acb/basics/equip_magnification.aspx
"Another reason for keeping the magnification low has to do with image brightness. An unfortunate law of physics dictates that when the magnification is doubled, the image gets four times dimmer. "
http://www.colorado.edu/physics/phys1230/phys1230_fa01/topic40.html
"There is the usual trade-off between magnification, which increases as the focal length of the first lens is made longer and light-gathering power, which depends on the inverse of the f/number of the first lens and therefore decreases as the focal length is made longer so that the f/number is made greater."
http://old.observers.org/beginner/eyepieces.freeman.html
"Not enough light. When you look at any particular object, the amount of its light entering the front of your telescope is fixed. If you are looking at an extended object, like the surface of the Moon, or a planet, or a galaxy or nebula, then as you increase magnification, that light is spread out over an ever-greater area of the retina of your eye, so the image looks dimmer and dimmer. Spread it out too much, and it will become too dim to see at all. What's more, various kinds of fine or low-contrast detail become hard to see before the object itself vanishes."
So givemeareason, I am giving you a scientific reason to question what you have been told. The question is are you going to accept the science or the PR they proclaim simply to keep their theories alive? We can logically deduce from the science that magnification does not allow one to see further into space - but even a lesser distance as the light is spread out over a larger area and dims as the magnification is increased according to the inverse square law of light. That unfortunate law of physics they told you about.
I don't know why you keep referring to the eye? The Hubble is a high tech sensing system which time lapses to whatever the extent needed to enhance the image created to whatever level the sensory system used to detect the image and the hardware/software that processes the image can develop. Having an unobstructed view is the key.
You do not think that the Hubble can image a galaxy at 10 to 15 billion light years which is its projected range? Is that correct?
I started to wonder if Creationists even believe in the universe since I know they argue against the Big Bang. Since there was no concept of the universe when Genesis was written I am wondering if they also deny the universe in order to retain the earth centered view of all existence. Otherwise, I don't see how they can reconcile belief in Genesis with the modern view of the universe.
This is your assumption, yet animals were not the subject of the Bible - nor was any time spent describing them. The animals all came before Adam two by two - male and female. This was to show Adam he himself as yet had no helper or companion and her value. We can be fairly certain God is consistent in His actions. You "assume" the animals were not created the same way man was - despite the fact the Bible uses what you translate as soul when talking about animals too.
So I can accept Moses and God calling both animals and humans souls, or your version. Sorry - you loose out.
It says nothing of the sort. Again with assumptions.
"And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”
"Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
"The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’” You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
Let's get it straight the woman added the not touch it clause, and I am sure the serpent probably spoke from within the tree - showing that touching it would not cause death. Adam was judged guilty because he was told directly by God, and "chose" to disobey. IMO because he did not want to loose that companion - made clear by the procession of male and female, two by two until every animal had passed before him to be named. You are assuming in the first case the animals were created differently when the same word is used, just because the Bible goes into more detail with man - the subject of the Bible - not the animals. In the second case you again assume Adam must of misspoke, even if it was the woman that did.
Adam was condemned because he willingly disobeyed and when confronted did not ask for forgiveness - but tried to blame the woman "The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”" And ultimately tried to shift the blame to God Himself since He put the woman there.
The KJV is the lowest rated in accuracy compared to the old texts of all the translations available.
That's because It doesn't say "a God" in John 1:1, does It?
That's not what the Bible says.
It says:[VERSE=Genesis 1:1,KJV]In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.[/VERSE]Note "heaven" in Verse 1 is singular.
It is not until Genesis 2:1, after the creation week, that we see "heaven" plural.[VERSE=Genesis 2:1,KJV]Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.[/VERSE]All three of them are containment areas, populated by specific objets d'art.
First Heaven = 0-62 miles up = the atomosphere = populated by the air, clouds, birds, etc.
Second Heaven = 62 miles-edge of universe = outer space = populated by planets, moons, stars, etc.
Third Heaven = Heaven proper = populated by Crystal Sea, Throne of God, mansions under construction, etc.
First section: that is why I asked specifically what you believed
As for animals, I hope that they have souls, but then we are even more culpable when we kill them, even for food. As we were to be their caretakers, we are already responsible for anything we do that causes them to suffer or die needlessly.
http://dogbeatsman.quora.com/All-Dogs-Go-to-Heaven-dueling-church-signs
God for sure didn't change the command and tell Adam and Eve two different things. Adam, as first created, was responsible for Eve. His first fault was letting her deal with the serpent when it was his job. As for whether he or Eve added to the command, it is more likely that he did.
"Don't eat anything from that tree. Don't even touch it. In fact, don't go near it..."
That's not what the Bible says.
It says:[VERSE=Genesis 1:1,KJV]In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.[/VERSE]Note "heaven" in Verse 1 is singular.
It is not until Genesis 2:1, after the creation week, that we see "heaven" plural.[VERSE=Genesis 2:1,KJV]Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.[/VERSE]All three of them are containment areas, populated by specific objets d'art.
First Heaven = 0-62 miles up = the atomosphere = populated by the air, clouds, birds, etc.
Second Heaven = 62 miles-edge of universe = outer space = populated by planets, moons, stars, etc.
Third Heaven = Heaven proper = populated by Crystal Sea, Throne of God, mansions under construction, etc.
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