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no logical connection between religious beliefs and morality?razeontherock said:No logical connection here.
yes they are, didn't imply otherwise.Beliefs and morality are 2 separate things.
because political differences override religious similarities.allhart said:Towards TENKA: unity doesn't necessarily mean uniformity!
No logical connection here. Beliefs and morality are 2 separate things.
Even for Christians it doesn't necessarily uniformity.As for Christian God is our common ground.....where as a nation it should be based principles....Americans , not as class war fair or pitting one group over another!no logical connection between religious beliefs and morality?
yes they are, didn't imply otherwise.
because political differences override religious similarities.
You're all heart, allhart, which might explain why your post is incoherent.Even for Christians it doesn't mean unity necessarily uniformity.As for Christian God is our common ground.....where as a nation it should be based principles....Americans , not as class war fair or pitting one group over another!
Well when we have constituents that are sworn to uphold the constitution.....Whom don't even care about it or right out down against it..... well then I and many others have a problem with them! I would rather have common sense than to write or speak elegantly. As well spoken corrupt politicians from Harvard and Yale etc inject their Elitism onto the masses/common folk!! They are intellectually retarded in my opinion..... Making themselves out to be more than they really are. They know best, whatever, but they don't even have the wisdom to put it intellectually all together!You're all heart, allhart, which might explain why your post is incoherent.
Try using structured sentences: subject, predicate, punctuation, etc.
I would also point out that to be effective a nation's policies should be based on realities, and not on phantasmical "principles". The very Constitution of the US is based on the implicit assumption of political and class struggle. To be victorious in the class war, you have to at least realize that you are at war and pick a side. (It might also be wise to realize that a complete victory may be worse than a defeat.)
Yes.Well when we have constituents that are sworn to uphold the constitution.....Whom don't even care about it or right out down against it..... well then I and many others have a problem with them!
Literacy and sense are not antithetical. You can have both.I would rather have common sense than to write or speak elegantly.
That isn't a sentence. Could your clarify?As well spoken corrupt politicians from Harvard and Yale etc inject their Elitism onto the masses/common folk!!
They seem to be smart enought to get away with it.They are intellectually retarded in my opinion.....
It has been my observation that nearly all people do that.Making themselves out to be more than they really are.
They have it together. They have well paying jobs that they don't even have to work at. All they have to do is take the money and do as they are told.They know best, whatever, but they don't even have the wisdom to put it intellectually all together!
And yet the politicians keep getting away with it.There are people out here that have BA. MA. degrees working in the run of the meal jobs. Trying to survive like the rest of us dumb folks out here! Having to show productivity for their earnings at the end of the week and not just being able to talk about it!
There are all sorts of classes. There is a cultured class, and and equally arrogant uncultured class taking pride in their ignorance.I'd say it is much as a culture war as a class war fair in America.
Maybe so, but the car ain't moving, so what does it matter?The war of ideas have come to the point to where the rubber meets the road!
We have a representative government, just as corrupt and just a little brighter than its constituency. They have principles. One principle is never to let principle to get in the way of profit.And furthermore our supposed "governing" by unruly men whom are unprincipled.....
Some folks aren't running deficits. The national deficit is the capitalist's profit.makes for the obvious...... lawlessness! Just in-like our deficits etc!
Gov't isn't to be in the business of doing business and is to be defined/confined to the Constitution,also the Gov't can't do anything unless they first take it from you! The national deficit is based on over spending and is based over substituting everyone's inadequacy's based on bailouts for the individual, as much as to say Corporate, State and Local failures! An over reaching Gov't! Even if we taken all the profit of the fortune 500 hundred, which is 98B. We couldn't pay for the monstrosity on capital Hill ,let along whatever whomever deems to be rightly spent in their eyes! Gov't can't just sit idle and do nothing! They have to spend your money!Yes.Literacy and sense are not antithetical. You can have both.That isn't a sentence. Could your clarify?They seem to be smart enought to get away with it.It has been my observation that nearly all people do that.They have it together. They have well paying jobs that they don't even have to work at. All they have to do is take the money and do as they are told.
And yet the politicians keep getting away with it.
There are all sorts of classes. There is a cultured class, and and equally arrogant uncultured class taking pride in their ignorance.Maybe so, but the car ain't moving, so what does it matter?
We have a representative government, just as corrupt and just a little brighter than its constituency. They have principles. One principle is never to let principle to get in the way of profit.Some folks aren't running deficits. The national deficit is the capitalist's profit.
You should do something... I don't know... Go suck a tea-bag?
I don't diagree with you. But our government, like every other government, is only as good as people make it. The American people are, on the whole, stupid, ignorant, lazy, and arrogant. Most of those who aren't use the government (and the churches) to extract money from those who are. A very small minority, who are neither stupid or dishonest, are despised by the boobs who gather on street corners and suck on old tea-bags. After all, anyone who is smart, educated, and honest is obviously an "elitist" and to be despised.,Gov't isn't to be in the business of doing business and is to be defined/confined to the Constitution,also the Gov't can't do anything unless they first take it from you! The national deficit is based on over spending and is based over substituting everyone's inadequacy's based on bailouts for the individual, as much as to say Corporate, State and Local failures! An over reaching Gov't! Even if we taken all the profit of the fortune 500 hundred, which is 98B. We couldn't pay for the monstrosity on capital Hill ,let along whatever whomever deems to be rightly spent in their eyes! Gov't can't just sit idle and do nothing! They have to spend your money!
I have never worked for a poor man and don't begrudge a honest man making money, nor the ability to make it!I don't diagree with you. But our government, like every other government, is only as good as people make it. The American people are, on the whole, stupid, ignorant, lazy, and arrogant. Most of those who aren't use the government (and the churches) to extract money from those who are. A very small minority, who are neither stupid or dishonest, are despised by the boobs who gather on street corners and suck on old tea-bags. After all, anyone who is smart, educated, and honest is obviously an "elitist" and to be despised.
Sometimes the boobs let themselves get "organized" and then they are likely to turn on anyone, including, at last, each other, until they become sated with righteousness and blood, and a new set of exploiters is left in power. "Plus ca change..."
Why be decent and moral if you believe there is a god?why be descent and moral if you believe there is no God?
Gracchus said:The American people are, on the whole, stupid, ignorant, lazy, and arrogant. Most of those who aren't use the government (and the churches) to extract money from those who are. A very small minority, who are neither stupid or dishonest, are despised by the boobs who gather on street corners and suck on old tea-bags. After all, anyone who is smart, educated, and honest is obviously an "elitist" and to be despised.
Why be decent and moral if you believe there is a god?
1. So you not only have to believe in a god, but a god who rewards good and punishes evil.the most basic reason is because he rewards good and punishes evil
1. So you not only have to believe in a god, but a god who rewards good and punishes evil.
2. Decency and morality are just a matter of obedience in this case.
3. If you are into this kind of thinking, any dictator would do.
I have always been wondering if asking the question "why do good if you don´t believe in god?" requires one to have sociopathic tendencies.
But, to be honest, I definitely like it when people who can´t think of any other reason to do good believe in a god.
You want me to write a book for you?your moral code is?
Not sure, but I think it has a lot to do with empathy...but hardly anything with obedience and being threatened, in any case.because of what?
why be descent and moral
why be descent and moral if you believe there is no God?
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