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DNA Tests Clear Wrongfully Convicted Half-Brothers After 30 Years

MachZer0

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It's a trend by bleeding heart judges to overturn cases like this. A cigarette butt does not demonstrate that the two didn't kill the girl
 
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They were founf guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt, and that verdict held up under appeal
Even coerced confessions are considered beyond reasonable doubt by too many people.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/03/u...rolina-murder-freed-after-dna-tests.html?_r=0

**http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxV6PWfa7i8
 
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Noting the paucity of responses to requests for evidence of said coercion


Claiming that it is difficult to have a detailed coerced confession is a claim to direct knowledge. Do you or do you not have such knowledge?
 
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Claiming that it is difficult to have a detailed coerced confession is a claim to direct knowledge. Do you or do you not have such knowledge?
Sorry, but the claim I made was in general, not specific.
 
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The statement given was quite specific and matched the evidence found by police at the scene ;

"The defendant Henry Lee McCollum gave a statement to law enforcement officers on 28 September 1983. He said that he saw the victim Sabrina Buie and a male named Darrell Suber come out of Sabrina's house at about 9:30 p.m. on 24 September 1983. McCollum and four other males joined them, and the group then went to a "little red house near the ballpark." The five males tried to convince Sabrina to have sexual intercourse with them, but she refused. Two of the males went to a nearby store and bought malt liquor. When they returned, the males discussed having sexual intercourse with Sabrina. One of the males, Louis Moore, refused to participate and left. McCollum, Sabrina and the others then walked across a bean field behind the store. They sat there in some bushes and drank the malt liquor. Suber then said that he was going to have sexual intercourse with Sabrina. The defendant Henry Lee McCollum grabbed Sabrina's right arm, and another member of the group grabbed her left arm. Suber then raped her while McCollum and the other male held her. Each man raped Sabrina while others held her. Evidence presented tended to show that two of the men also sodomized her.
Suber then said, "we got to do something because she'll go uptown and tell the cops we raped her." The defendant Henry Lee McCollum grabbed Sabrina's right arm and held her while another male grabbed her left arm. Chris knelt over Sabrina's head and with a stick pushed her panties down her throat. After they knew she was dead, McCollum and Chris dragged her body away to hide it from view."


Also of note is that McCollum was granted a second trial, and still found guilty


Then someone discovered a cigarette butt
 
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Sorry, but the claim I made was in general, not
specific.

You did?

Difficult to coerce such a concise confession

It looks to like you are making a claim about this specific confession. Is that not the case? You are saying that it is difficult in general to coerce a concise confession from anyone?
 
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The statement given was quite specific and matched the evidence found by police at the scene ;

Except the part about the participants with alibis.

Oops.

And you didn't answer the question about the ability of cops with knowledge of the crime to contaminate the validity of the confession (i.e. feed information to the accused)
 
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Funny how he "just made up a story" that matched the evidence at the scene
And the two other men in the confession? Funny how they were not prosecuted.
 
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The statement given was quite specific and matched the evidence found by police at the scene ;
Since the police wrote the confession, I expect it would fit the evidence. Go back and read the links I posted for you. The other people implicated in the "confession" turned out to have air-tight alibis.
Also of note is that McCollum was granted a second trial, and still found guilty
Before all the evidence had been brought to the attention of the court.
Then someone discovered a cigarette butt
Which, along with other exculpatory evidence was witheld from the defense, it is the DNA that is the issue, not the Newport. As you appear to not understand, DNA analysis was not available for the jurors to consider at the trial. And, they were not aware that a fingerprint found was never analysed (it did not match the defendants).
 
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Funny how he "just made up a story" that matched the evidence at the scene
1. Had you bothered to read the links you would have seen his confession contained false info that didn't match the crime.
2. You clearly have zero comprehension of how police can force a confession by asking leading questions with the information that they want in the confession and continue hammering that into the people for hours on end.
 
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