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The union came but rejected for politcal reasons
Catholic is One ( There is unity WITHIN)
Orthodox is ONE (There is unity WITHIN)
Protestant is 36 000 (There is none whatsoever)
One does not divide the Church, one leaves it, generally through heresy and apostacy.
The division comes from the customs and habits of man being *added* to the bible.
The trigger for Luther, that last straw-was when the catholic church, under a corrupt borgia pope, began selling "indulgences for the forgiveness" of various sins in Germany.............to finance a building program the pope was trying to raise money for. This was quite clearly a heresy. This pope's other scandalous behaviors are well documented in the historical record.
The reformation was not about Christianity in the sense of it's purity. It was about how impure an *institution* of Christianity had become-and the desire to return to the fundamentals of worship and belief.
When man finally overcomes it's own arrogance in seeking to support it's institutions and customs-over following God's pure and undoubted word-then will the schism be healed.
Not before.
Yes, most people following this kind of discussion agree that Eastern Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism are closer to each other than they are to Protestantism. You've haven't said much beyond this, so I will refrain from further comment.
One does not divide the Church, one leaves it, generally through heresy and apostacy.
Actually, Matt, I'd take issue with that assumption. It depends on what criteria you're using. In some ways, Protestantism and Roman Catholicism are similar and Eastern Orthodoxy is different, and in other ways, Protestantism and Eastern Orthodoxy are similar and Roman Catholicism is different.
The Catholic Church stands alone in teh face of sexualy immorality and contraception.
Do you have any idea how that would sound to a victim of priestly sexual abuse?
Yes, I understand that distinction, but Roman Catholics like to boast about how they must be the true church because Christ preserves their church just as He promised, as if Christ's promise to preserve the church refers to a catechism and not to a people.Undoubtedly it would sound completely hollow. But, with every passing year it's more true. While less than one percent of the clergy is guilty, what are they guilty of? Clearly, without argument, they are guilty of breaking their vows, the Church's teachings and the bonds of trust between them and us.
The Catholic Church isn't alone in standing up against sexual morality, of course. Many Protestant churches do, too. But with growing frequency we see Protestants making decisions to allow for abortion, homosexual unions, etc. Contraception--once universally rejected as a grave evil--is now perfectly fine with most Protestant sects. And it's shocking to see how many Protestants see no problem whatsoever with masturbation.
On the ground level, a stunning number of Catholics use contraception and engage in a number of other sexual perversions. However, here's the distinction between the Catholic Church and a growing number of Protestant churches: the Church still, after millenia, teaches that these things are gravely evil.
Yes, I understand that distinction, but Roman Catholics like to boast about how they must be the true church because Christ preserves their church just as He promised, as if Christ's promise to preserve the church refers to a catechism and not to a people.
I agree. The idea that Christ's promise refers to the catechism is a very grave misunderstanding.That would be a misunderstanding.
I agree. The idea that Christ's promise refers to the catechism is a very grave misunderstanding.
No dispute there. But I don't believe that when Christ said that the gates of Hell would not prevail against the church, he was referring to a formal set of teachings.Pthppt. Whether it's in a catechism, a Bible, or on a Denny's placemat, what Christ delivered to us will never change.
No dispute there. But I don't believe that when Christ said that the gates of Hell would not prevail against the church, he was referring to a formal set of teachings.
You don't say. Lol.
Naturally, I disagree, but I think it's more than that--Satan will never prevail against Christ's Church, either.
Actually, Matt, I'd take issue with that assumption. It depends on what criteria you're using. In some ways, Protestantism and Roman Catholicism are similar and Eastern Orthodoxy is different, and in other ways, Protestantism and Eastern Orthodoxy are similar and Roman Catholicism is different.
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