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Divine Vengeance -- what is your view?

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My view about divine retribution is ...

  • The operation of divine vengeance is always intended by God to recreate and reform its object.

  • Divine vengeance is not intended by God to have any corrective results upon its object.

  • God does not operate retribution upon anybody -- Christian or non-Christian, good or evil.

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Grapefruit

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Let me know what you think about divine retribution.

Is its operation creative or destructive upon the person who God operates it? Do you believe that God's punishments and curses are always intended to be corrective of their objects, or are they sometimes not? Perhaps you believe that divine retribution does not exist at all?

Thank you for entering your opinion in the poll, and please explain what you think and why you think it!
 
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I do believe in divine retribution. I mean reading the book of Revelation, I would say that God's retribution is against sin and sin alone. So to ask whether or not divine retribution exists is not a question to me. I believe in the case of the believer that the wrath of God (God's retribution) would be for corrective purposes as talked about in Hebrews 13. However, as I look at other examples such as the book of Revelation and many major prophets, I think that there is an aspect of both because much of the judgements prophesied in these books are just that; judgements. Which means it is directed against the sin of the world, nation, man etc., specifically for punishment for an act. the whole world will never come to full repentance or fellowship with God.
So I still think that part of the retribution is simply punishment (destructive) while at other times it is corrective.
 
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I believe divine retributions true effect on us is dependant on how we respond to it because God means it for our good. He took lots family and possessions and health and yet in the end he gained spiritual understanding and a closer walk with God, Jonah only the other hand seemed to end his recorded prophetic journey and tribulation without having learned any new spritual revelation. His loss because of his bad attidude.
 
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Ceridwen said:
When God touches a person, is the transformation always in an "upwards" direction and never in a "downwards" direction? Or, does it depend on whether the person is a Christian or not?
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I'm not sure 'upwards' or downwards is a fair description of His touch as time and providence are on mans side in this. It may look like a devastation at first but benevolent factors could be tilling the soil of the soul to see in a new way because of it.
We each are in His hands and when His winds blow we either know enough to hide or fly a kite or sail a ship...and if we don't then there will still be an opportunity to turn to Him.
To not turn when we see the light is the unforgivable sin.
 
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chris777 said:
uh is their a 4th choice?

or at the very least none of the above
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I'm sorry that I didn't construct the poll with an answer that would more fit your perspective. What is your perspective, if I might ask? Do you believe in divine retribution? What is its nature? What is God's intention when he issues it?

Thanks all for your perspectives, and let's keep it coming!

I'm really curious -- what do you guys see as the Biblical answer to this question? Does the Bible teach that God's wrath is pedagogical rather than destructive? Do you guys get your thoughts from the Bible? Thanks!
 
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Grapefruit said:
...snip... Do you guys get your thoughts from the Bible? Thanks!
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I don't know about everyone else, but I tend to get my thoughts from my head, I hope & pray that they line up with what the bible teaches, but they(the thoughts) don't come from the bible.
 
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