Dispensationalist study material

[Livindesert]

Anyone know of any good web sites,blogs,podcasts, or books that are scholarly for me to learn more about Dispensationalism?

 

[glen55]

Anyone know of any good web sites,blogs,podcasts, or books that are scholarly for me to learn more about Dispensationalism?

Look up the dispensational berean, it covers all dispensational positions.

 

[Livindesert]

Look up the dispensational berean, it covers all dispensational positions.

Thanks a bunch!

 

[LamorakDesGalis]

Anyone know of any good web sites,blogs,podcasts, or books that are scholarly for me to learn more about Dispensationalism?

Here are a few:

• Feinberg, John S. Continuity and Discontinuity: Perspectives on the Relationship Between the Old and New Testaments; Essays in Honor of S. Lewis Johnson, Jr. Westchester, Ill.: Crossway Books, 1988. Excellent book. The writers include scholars from dispensational and covenant theology backgrounds. The interaction between the writers is irenic and highlights similarities and differences in the views.
  

• Ryrie, Charles Caldwell. Dispensationalism Today. Paperback ed. Chicago: Moody Press, 1965. A good overview of dispensationalism and issues in dispensationalism. Also addresses common charges against dispensationalism.
  

• DeWitt, Dale Sumner. Dispensational Theology in America During the Twentieth Century: Theological Development and Cultural Context. Grace Bible College, 2002. Very even-handed book which includes interaction with dispensational critiques.
  

• Blaising, Craig A. Progressive Dispensationalism. Wheaton, IL: BridgePoint, 1993. Excellent description of the historical development of dispensationalism and explanation of the progressive dispensationalist perspective.

• Bateman, Herbert W. Three Central Issues in Contemporary Dispensationalism: A Comparison of Traditional and Progressive Views. Grand Rapids, MI: Kregel Publications, 1999. Interaction on key issues between 2 traditional dispensationalists and 2 progressive dispensationalists.

• Mangum, R. Todd, and Lanier Burns. The Dispensational-Covenantal Rift: The Fissuring of American Evangelical Theology from 1936 to 1944. Milton Keynes ; Waynesboro, Ga.: Paternoster, 2007. Provides the historical background of "why" and "how" the debate became acromonious between dispensationalists and Covenant Theologians.

LDG

 

[Dispy]

Go to GRACE BOOKS and you can read many really good book on line. "Things That Differd" by Pastor C.R. Stam is excellent.

 

[JM]

Try this one.

 

[dan p]

Anyone know of any good web sites,blogs,podcasts, or books that are scholarly for me to learn more about Dispensationalism?

www.bereanbiblesociety.org

googlr , Robert C Brock , who is the best .

 

[Terral]

Hi Livin:

Anyone know of any good web sites, blogs, podcasts, or books that are scholarly for me to learn more about Dispensationalism?

The best two sources (outside my CF.com posts) are:

1. C.R. Stam: Berean Bible Society and his book (like Dan said) "Things That Differ" (view online here). I have handed out boxes and boxes of these books in the USA and parts of Europe. Stam's Four-book series on the Book of Acts is very good. However, while I have read practically everything written by C.R. Stam, he is off on some things ... (like Passover Supper being for us today) ...

2. Clarence Larkin "Dispensational Truth" (Google Books Copy and Book List). Again, Larkin is very good on most aspects of dispensational truth, but he gets some things wrong. He has the 1000 Year Day of the Lord on the wrong side of the Great Tribulation ...

In Christ Jesus,

Terral

 

[Dennis_Hogg]

From your first request, it looks like you are looking for something a little more scholarly than most books out there. I would suggest "A Dispensational Theology" by Charles F. Baker. ISBN#0-912340-01-0

 

[Jig]

Anything from Charles Ryrie. He has a great study bible out. Maybe you'd like to read his work titled "Dispensationalism".

John MacArthur has a whole NT commentary set. Plus, a study bible and countless books.

John Walvoord has a book called "The Revelation of Jesus Christ". It is an awesome commentary on the book of Revelation.

 

[chatmaggot]

I have enjoyed Enjoy The Bible Ministries website. On it you will find articles and audio by Keith Blades.

Similarly, there is UnderstandingYourBible.com website with Steve Atwood. On his site you will find videos and audio.

Also, there is Graceforall.net and trustingthelord.com

 

[Easystreet]

Pre-trib Research Center
Pre-trib Research Center List of Members
This list is not all who are of this view but only those who felt a need to sign on as co-members of this site.
The Lam and The Lion Ministry
Friends of Israel (Israel My Glory Magazine - a must)
The Rapture Forum
Hal Lindsey Report
Rapture Ready
Grant Jeffery's Ministry
Prophecy Central

 

[Biblewriter]

I am an internationally published dispensational writer. I have also presented a great amount of dispensational material in Christian forums.

I have put together the following directory of the initial posts in the significant threads I have started in the last few years. To review any of them click on "search this forum and copy the number following the thread title. This will bring up the thread referenced by the number.

I do not give this list from arrogance, but because some have complained about me bringing up old threads "that nobody is interested in" and for re-posting old material, so I present the material in this fashion.

In the eschatology forum:
The Margaret MacDonald Lie 48347563
The Assyrian 16680915
Who will be in the land during Daniel’s seventieth week? 40744059
The neglected character in end time prophecy 41543942
The timing of Ezekiel 38 and 39 50024166
What happens when Messiah comes 49893666
A different view of the seals 50478356
The most common error among premillennialists 50537304
Lets stop interpreting for a while 34650182
British Israelism 48255391
Understanding Bible prophecy 15548830
Understanding Bible Prophecy II 15702466
Understanding Bible prophecy III 16948014

In the dispensationalism forum:
Olam means forever 37186137
The unfulfilled promise of Israel’s repentance 37343218
The unfulfilled promise to David 37386279
The unfulfilled promise to Abraham 37023232

 

[Easystreet]

I am an internationally published dispensational writer. I have also presented a great amount of dispensational material in Christian forums.

I have put together the following directory of the initial posts in the significant threads I have started in the last few years. To review any of them click on "search this forum and copy the number following the thread title. This will bring up the thread referenced by the number.

I do not give this list from arrogance, but because some have complained about me bringing up old threads "that nobody is interested in" and for re-posting old material, so I present the material in this fashion.

In the eschatology forum:
The Margaret MacDonald Lie 48347563
The Assyrian 16680915
Who will be in the land during Daniel’s seventieth week? 40744059
The neglected character in end time prophecy 41543942
The timing of Ezekiel 38 and 39 50024166
What happens when Messiah comes 49893666
A different view of the seals 50478356
The most common error among premillennialists 50537304
Lets stop interpreting for a while 34650182
British Israelism 48255391
Understanding Bible prophecy 15548830
Understanding Bible Prophecy II 15702466
Understanding Bible prophecy III 16948014

In the dispensationalism forum:
Olam means forever 37186137
The unfulfilled promise of Israel’s repentance 37343218
The unfulfilled promise to David 37386279
The unfulfilled promise to Abraham 37023232

What do you do with Psalm 83?

 

[Biblewriter]

What do you do with Psalm 83?

I hold to the view of the original (modern day) dispensationalists, that the Psalms are prophetic in character.

But before I go into that, I need to explain myself. There is also a clear testimony from the famed fourth century church historian Eusebius that there were "many" ancient writers that followed the lead of Papias. Almost everything Papias wrote was destroyed, and almost all of the "many" writers who followed his lead are unknown to scholars today. The writing of one of them who is still known, Irenaeus, sounds like it might have been written at Moody Bible Institute or Dallas Theological Seminary.

So we know that there was a great body of ancient writings on Bible prophecy that the medieval monks did not see fit to preserve. But John of Crysostem (c347-407) wrote that some thought that the restrainer that was preventing the revelation of the man of sin (2 Thessalonians 2:7) was "the Spirit of Grace." This is all the more important historically because he did not believe this. As one of the foundation doctrines of the pre-trib movement is that this restrainer is the Holy Spirit, this very strongly indicates that the pre-trib doctrine was in circulation at that time, even though no writings about it were preserved.

Again, a very clear pre-trib article was written sometime before the year 650 by someone identifying himself as Ephraim. This article was circulated widely enough that it was translated into at least three different languages in ancient times. Scholars call this writer pseudo-Ephraim because they do not believe the writer was the famous Ephraim of Syria. I do not like this appellation because it implies fraud and omits the possibility that it could have been written by a different man who was also named Ephraim. The writer, incidently, did not identify himself as Ephraim of Syria, but merely as Ephraim.

I say all this only to stress that there appear to have been dispensationalists in ancient times. But the doctrine of the pre-tribulation rapture was revived in modern times by several writers in the 1700s and popularized by John Nelson Darby in the mid-1800s.

This John Nelson Darby also systematized the doctrine of dispensationalism as we know it today. His associate and friend, William Kelly took up the task and wrote very extensively of Bible prophecy. These leaders of the modern dispensational movement have been largely ignored today, But I have studied their writings in detail.

One of their doctrines that has been largely forgotten today was that the Psalms are not just a book of independent poems that stand alone, but rather each of the five books of Psalms has a well distinct subject that is introduced and developed in an orderly fashion, just like any other book of the Bible. Having studied their writings on this, I became persuaded they were correct.

It is widely known that when we originally received the Psalms, they were in five books, not one. (As a side note, this means that God actually gave us the Bible in seventy books, not sixty-six.

The first book is Psalms 1-41. The second boon is psalms 42-72. The third book is Psalms 73-89. The fourth book is Psalms 90-106. The fifth book is Psalms 107-150. These five books of Psalms trace the righteous remnant of Israel through Daniel's seventieth week, the period we call the tribulation or the end times. The Psalms do not give the actual events, except as noted in passing, but instead they give the feelings of a righteous Israelite as he goes through this period.

The first book gives the righteous remnant suffering in the midst of an ungodly nation, and correspond to the first half of Daniel's seventieth week. The second book gives the righteous remnant cast out, and corresponds to the middle of the week, when the placing of the abomination of desolation gives the signal to flee. Jesus is looked at as a member of this righteous remnant, and is thus seen in these two books. The third book mourns the destruction the enemy has wrought in the land, and corresponds to the last half of Daniel's seventieth week. Jesus is not found in this book. The fourth book contains the announcement that the king has come and the call to go up to worship him. Jesus is in this book, but not in his first appearing, but as the mighty Messiah-King. The fifth book discusses the righteous back in the land and preparing to obey the Lord's command to take vengeance on the surrounding nations that have tried so long to annihilate them. This is the book that contains the Psalm calling for vengeance upon Judas.

I know this is a rather long answer to your question, but it is the background material necessary to understand my answer. Psalm 83 lists the nations that have joined together to bring about the destruction that took place at and after the middle of the week. these nations are:

6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;​

7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;​

8 Assur also is joined with them:

We do not know with certainty the modern names of all these ancient nations. But we do know many of them. Edom is the southern part of modern Jordan and the northern part of modern Saudi Arabia. The Ishmaelites are the Arabs. Moab is the central part of modern Jordan. And Ammon is the northern part of modern Jordan. The Philistines are the modern day Palestinians and Tyre is an ancient city that remains by the same name to this very day, a city in Lebanon. We (or at least I) do not know the modern identities of the Hagarenes, Gebal, and Amalek. But notable in this list is Assur. Assur is the Assyrians, the northern part of modern day Iraq.


Not even one widely accepted end time scenario accounts for this presence of the Assyrians in this attacking army. I find this remarkable in view if the large number of unfulfilled prophecies about the end time attack of "the Assyrian." To check a few of these out, read Isaiah 10 and Micah 5.


​

 

[Ryan Collins]

I would read anything by Charles Ryrie or John Walvoord.

 

[Easystreet]

I hold to the view of the original (modern day) dispensationalists, that the Psalms are prophetic in character.

But before I go into that, I need to explain myself. There is also a clear testimony from the famed fourth century church historian Eusebius that there were "many" ancient writers that followed the lead of Papias. Almost everything Papias wrote was destroyed, and almost all of the "many" writers who followed his lead are unknown to scholars today. The writing of one of them who is still known, Irenaeus, sounds like it might have been written at Moody Bible Institute or Dallas Theological Seminary.

So we know that there was a great body of ancient writings on Bible prophecy that the medieval monks did not see fit to preserve. But John of Crysostem (c347-407) wrote that some thought that the restrainer that was preventing the revelation of the man of sin (2 Thessalonians 2:7) was "the Spirit of Grace." This is all the more important historically because he did not believe this. As one of the foundation doctrines of the pre-trib movement is that this restrainer is the Holy Spirit, this very strongly indicates that the pre-trib doctrine was in circulation at that time, even though no writings about it were preserved.

Again, a very clear pre-trib article was written sometime before the year 650 by someone identifying himself as Ephraim. This article was circulated widely enough that it was translated into at least three different languages in ancient times. Scholars call this writer pseudo-Ephraim because they do not believe the writer was the famous Ephraim of Syria. I do not like this appellation because it implies fraud and omits the possibility that it could have been written by a different man who was also named Ephraim. The writer, incidently, did not identify himself as Ephraim of Syria, but merely as Ephraim.

I say all this only to stress that there appear to have been dispensationalists in ancient times. But the doctrine of the pre-tribulation rapture was revived in modern times by several writers in the 1700s and popularized by John Nelson Darby in the mid-1800s.

This John Nelson Darby also systematized the doctrine of dispensationalism as we know it today. His associate and friend, William Kelly took up the task and wrote very extensively of Bible prophecy. These leaders of the modern dispensational movement have been largely ignored today, But I have studied their writings in detail.

One of their doctrines that has been largely forgotten today was that the Psalms are not just a book of independent poems that stand alone, but rather each of the five books of Psalms has a well distinct subject that is introduced and developed in an orderly fashion, just like any other book of the Bible. Having studied their writings on this, I became persuaded they were correct.

It is widely known that when we originally received the Psalms, they were in five books, not one. (As a side note, this means that God actually gave us the Bible in seventy books, not sixty-six.

The first book is Psalms 1-41. The second boon is psalms 42-72. The third book is Psalms 73-89. The fourth book is Psalms 90-106. The fifth book is Psalms 107-150. These five books of Psalms trace the righteous remnant of Israel through Daniel's seventieth week, the period we call the tribulation or the end times. The Psalms do not give the actual events, except as noted in passing, but instead they give the feelings of a righteous Israelite as he goes through this period.

The first book gives the righteous remnant suffering in the midst of an ungodly nation, and correspond to the first half of Daniel's seventieth week. The second book gives the righteous remnant cast out, and corresponds to the middle of the week, when the placing of the abomination of desolation gives the signal to flee. Jesus is looked at as a member of this righteous remnant, and is thus seen in these two books. The third book mourns the destruction the enemy has wrought in the land, and corresponds to the last half of Daniel's seventieth week. Jesus is not found in this book. The fourth book contains the announcement that the king has come and the call to go up to worship him. Jesus is in this book, but not in his first appearing, but as the mighty Messiah-King. The fifth book discusses the righteous back in the land and preparing to obey the Lord's command to take vengeance on the surrounding nations that have tried so long to annihilate them. This is the book that contains the Psalm calling for vengeance upon Judas.

I know this is a rather long answer to your question, but it is the background material necessary to understand my answer. Psalm 83 lists the nations that have joined together to bring about the destruction that took place at and after the middle of the week. these nations are:

6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;​

7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;​

8 Assur also is joined with them:​

We do not know with certainty the modern names of all these ancient nations. But we do know many of them. Edom is the southern part of modern Jordan and the northern part of modern Saudi Arabia. The Ishmaelites are the Arabs. Moab is the central part of modern Jordan. And Ammon is the northern part of modern Jordan. The Philistines are the modern day Palestinians and Tyre is an ancient city that remains by the same name to this very day, a city in Lebanon. We (or at least I) do not know the modern identities of the Hagarenes, Gebal, and Amalek. But notable in this list is Assur. Assur is the Assyrians, the northern part of modern day Iraq.​

Not even one widely accepted end time scenario accounts for this presence of the Assyrians in this attacking army. I find this remarkable in view if the large number of unfulfilled prophecies about the end time attack of "the Assyrian." To check a few of these out, read Isaiah 10 and Micah 5.​

I don't recall where I heard or read it, but some believe that Psalams 83 will take place before the rapture.

 

[Easystreet]

I would read anything by Charles Ryrie or John Walvoord.

Yes I have many of both authors' books. Ryrie speaks at Southwestern here and there and you can look at the archives and find them. The last one was on the coin in the mouth of the fish.

see 11.17.09 chapel click HERE