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no, refresh my memory....er, actually don't. if there is no such thing as personal truth then how come i completely disagree with you? we're just viewing two different sides of the same coin. uhhhhh, wait, you won't get that. read some eastern philosophy then you'll get it.PKJ said:There is NO SUCH THING as personnal truth. Truth is public. Remember that monopoly money analogy?
NaveBob said:no, refresh my memory....er, actually don't. if there is no such thing as personal truth then how come i completely disagree with you? we're just viewing two different sides of the same coin. uhhhhh, wait, you won't get that.
Thank you Gururead some eastern philosophy then you'll get it.
You serving your own personal truth is different that you serving yourself how?Navebob said:plain english for those who need it: you intend only to serve you. you do not intend to serve truth.
Lame insults like this just aren't acceptable post-puberty, grow up.i have a feeling your brain won't soak that in properly either.
Ok, this is what people are seeing when they read your posts;regarding your lucid comment - i am not a robot, you are speaking to a human being who conveys not simply logic when he speaks but also emotion. if you can not make an effort to feel what i feel, i often have to resort to even more emotion filled language. when i ask "are we all seeing this yet?" i mean everyone in this forum who are just as closed off as you.
Well if you wanted to understand what my perspective is, that is how I knew best to explain it.and i've also run into many condescending atheists (yourself included, hence "imaginary friend") who are upset at me as well.
You've been here what, less than a week? my stable positoin is that I admit I could be wrong but I see no reason to believe anything different yet.not because you disagree with me, rather how you disagree with me in that you won't admit you, yourself could likely be wrong.
On which day was that?which by the way i believe he created and we're just observing
Maybe they wither in the light of your righteousness..christian voyeurs refers to the christians who are likely reading this discussion but not saying a thing.
Tolerance: The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others.Tenka said:You serving your own personal truth is different that you serving yourself how?
Lame insults like this just aren't acceptable post-puberty, grow up.
Ok, this is what people are seeing when they read your posts;
"oh oh...you aren't understanding me" "awww...read some philosophy" "you just can't accept that you don't comprehend me, you're closed-minded"
If you cannot make your case with plain simple logic and reason,emotional appeals and insults are not going to get you anywhere either.
It's sad to watch.
Well if you wanted to understand what my perspective is, that is how I knew best to explain it.
If you think it's condescending, you can explain how your belief is different than an imaginary friend.
You've been here what, less than a week? my stable positoin is that I admit I could be wrong but I see no reason to believe anything different yet.
You could read this thread where I make that quite clear numerous times.
http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=19675257#post19675257
Don't just walk in off the street and tell me what I think.
On which day was that?
Maybe they wither in the light of your righteousness..
navedub said:Please try if you can to understand people, the weakest of us, the least rational of us and that were all just trying to get by the best we can. Dont think you empower those you convince that god doesnt exist, in the end you only really set them down another course.
I see 3 unconnected and totally irrelevent sentences.Navebob said:Since you people are sucking me dry to the bone, Ill leave you with this. Keep it to yourself if youre capable. Your only answer seems to be that you dont have one.
I had written quite a bit in reply to this, but I deleted because I realised I could sum it all up much quicker.Why then take that away from someone who does especially if you believe you have the power to do so? Honestly view what atheism is about. Lets consider you were right and that the whole.......
Go read about what humanism actually is about, it's hardly as heartless as you imply.Youre no different from all the religions of the world, its just that you havent got a mother. I hope one day you find her and find her to be warm and life giving, not so cold and sterile as logic.
They're angry 'cause they're wrong. I'm sure you've seen that.navedub said:well be careful in the future not to provoke people and maybe you won't run into it again. incidentally, what is it with people in here not being able to deal with anger? if anger doesn't affect lucidity of thought, what's the problem? are you that sensitive? soooooooooorrrrrryy, jeeez
Good call, Navebob is actually the angry, emotional one ...so he must be wrong.Rosen said:They're angry 'cause they're wrong.
Angry doesn't equal emotional.Tenka said:Good call, Navebob is actually the angry, emotional one ...so he must be wrong.
I'm not angry, I'm not trying to get anyone to agree with me.Rosen said:However, when you get angry anytime someone doesn't agree with your unbelief system then you're wrong and you know it; you're just so bought into your own viewpoint, you'd rather be stupid than admit your error.
it seems you all want to desperately continue this game but the way you're playing it, it takes out all the fun. i'm done playing. which is not to say anyone won..........if you'd like to think you did, by all means!Tenka said:I'm not angry, I'm not trying to get anyone to agree with me.
You have no clue what you are talking about, or what this thread is about.
As I showed before, my viewpoint is open and waiting for someone to show me another reasonable way.
I am a blank sheet of belief, looking for something reasonable, not pathetic emotional appeals and arrogance filled diatribes.
If you think I'm wrong and your belief makes sense then you can head over to GA and look at my freewill thread, "Goddidn'tdoit".
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