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Discernment over Deepity

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I had a Socratic dialog with ChatGPT, exploring the UFO phenomenon from various critical dimensions, including secular and religious moral and spiritual implications, as well as some insights from cognitive science:

 
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Unless they are seen landing with alien creatures coming out of them , UFOs in the sky today are now defunct and have been replaced with drones.
Anybody claiming to see a UFO will be told that they are only seeing drones.

Ahh I long for the good old days before drones came along , it was more interesting.
 
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I agree. I personally don’t believe in aliens, because life as we know it, isn’t compatible with other planets.

My opinion only.
 
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I agree. I personally don’t believe in aliens, because life as we know it, isn’t compatible with other planets.

My opinion only.
And I believe your right. Most of us believe they are demons pretending to be aliens.
One abductee case is Travis Walton of fire in the sky fame a non christian , said as he was face to face with an alien on board their ship the alien reached out and ripped off his silver cross necklace and threw it on the floor.

Being a non christian he wasn't trying to make any religious statements , just that he thought it was angry with him.

Another case only this time with a difference , is Pastor Gary Stearman of Prophecy watchers , he believes the craft he saw was from God.

 
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His description of his encounter sounds more than a little ambiguous and lacks full details (perhaps for practical reasons, of course). I did a bit of research on him... according to DeepSeek, he believes the UFO phenomenon is evidence of spiritual warfare and deception. Which fits with the thesis drawn out in ChatGPT's essay on the subject. Discernment doesn't mean every light in the sky is demonic, but it does urge us to be cautious, to seek to understand unusual phenomena within a wider context, and not simply focus on the ungrounded fascination, awe, and seduction that these phenomena can inspire.

I've been interested in the subject of UFO's and the paranormal since I was a child. But I've since come to believe I approached the subject with a lack of spiritual discernment, owing to being intellectualy and spiritually naive. Phenomena like this haven't been seriously investigated in terms of their moral and spiritual implications. And I've since come to believe this is part of a wider problem within western science and scholarship, the lack of holistic perspective-seeking. We've been focused on the "what", but not the "why". Questions of meaning and significance were relegated to the realm of "subjective experience" and "religious dogma", and then dismissed altogether.
 
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If anyone is interested just type in UFO 2027.
Wouldn't it be amazing if it turns out to be real.
One of the many headlines you will come across is :

Aliens Will Reveal Themselves in 2027, Claims Former CIA Agent​


There's two extremes, both have to do with unhealthy fascination.

I'm not into typical American pre-mil apocalypticism, which lends itself to conspiratorial thinking. That in itself is a type of misplaced awe and a subtle attack on faith. The English-speaking world right now is undergoing an inflection point, but the world is bigger than just those particular obsessions, neuroses and delusions.

I have my own theory that places like America have so many UFO sightings because people here are apt to fall for hucksters in general. Whether they be human, or non-human. We carry alot more water for charisma and sensationalism than we do simple things like quiet discernment and wisdom. Our culture is basically sending out a big metaphysical welcome mat to the wierd and frightening.
 
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Now this looks very interesting. Donald Trumps son asks him if he will reveal aliens before he leaves office.
Trumps answer is ...well ...interesting. Should also read the comments under the vid or transcript.


I wonder if he will do it in 2027 ?
Over the years there has been a lot of talk about aliens working with the US Government , meaning the deep state Gov , and that when Trump finally defeats them ( deep state ) that he was going to reveal everything.

Lets wait and see.
 
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I don't believe any of it.

Though I have heard credible evidence that NORAD has regularly tracked many objects frequently that are of unknown origin over the years. Also, the US Navy has knowledge of many unknown sonar contacts underwater that defy explanation. I don't think the government has a better idea of what these things are, than you do, however. When something is outside an existing, dominant paradigm, it usually gets quietly put away. And contrary to popular perception among conspiracists, the US government doesn't necessarily have the answers on a great many things. It has alot of specialists, but few generalists who can synthesize data and information into a new paradigm.

I think the fact the US has so many UFO sightings and encounters is a testament to how unmoored the US is, and might even be attracting them through a metaphysical "welcome mat". American culture celebrates narcissism, and is inherently, and intensely drawn to themes of exploration and self-mastery (potentially leading to intellectual and spiritual seduction), and it also leads the world in wacky religious and spiritual ideas, often they serve an ungrounding purpose meant to seduce people away from the stuff that really matters in life.

IMO, nobody should approach the topic without some kind of healthy skepticism and spiritual discernment. Not all that glitters is gold, and as Niezsche wrote, if you stare into the Abyss, the Abyss also stares into you. These UFO's and "aliens", whatever they are, are not what they present themselves as, having more in common with demons, elves, faeries, and tricksters of religion or folklore, than technologically advanced beings from another world.
 
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