Disagree LIVE on Infant Baptism

[JM]

The Lutheran won but Smart Christian is a fella I follow and would recommend for cultural issues.

Yours in the Lord,

jm

 

[Ain't Zwinglian]

Listen to it. Very good. I like Chris' podcasts....along with alot of other people. Also Justin Peters and Steven Kozar.

I loved it when Rosebrough took on the Remnant Radio guys.....and demolished them. Those RR guys sure have some flaky theology

 

[The Liturgist]

Listen to it. Very good. I like Chris' podcasts....along with alot of other people. Also Justin Peters and Steven Kozar.

I loved it when Rosebrough took on the Remnant Radio guys.....and demolished them. Those RR guys sure have some flaky theology

I agree entirely regarding Remnant Radio. Even their name suggests heterodoxy, by implying a discredited psuedo-history based on the error of a Great Apostasy descending upon the early church immediately after the repose of St. John and the martyrdom of the other Apostles, which conveniently allows them to discredit everyone until which ever random restorationist theologian they wish to use as their basis, up to and including themselves. And this whole fallacy was the product of the Landmark Baptists, who, apparently realizing there was no Patristic or traditional Protestant basis for their rejection of infant baptism, decided to pick random heretical sects throughout Christian history such as the Paulicians, Donatists, Montanists and so on and falsely claim they were Baptists, which is completely untrue (we even have a Paulician sacred text, “The Book of Keys”, and texts from some of the other groups they misattribute their theology to, and it is very clear they are not practitioners of what most people, including the Baptists, would recognize as Christianity. The one exception was the Donatists, but they did practice infant baptism; rather their whole deal was the idea that the efficacy of the sacraments depended on the personal righteousness of the clergy, which is obviously a problem since of all the leaders of the church, only the Head of the church, our supreme Archierus, Jesus Christ, is inately righteous, as Martin Luther had to restate, since apparently this fact had been forgotten despite St. Augustine being one of the main critics of Donatism and also being one of the few Patristic figures who was universally well read in the West throughout the entire Medieval and Renaissance era.

By the way, am I alone in the experience of having never found a church that calls itself a “Community Church” that is even remotely doctrinally orthodox? I want to see Lutheran, Anglican, Orthodox, Catholic, Methodist, Assyrian or some other positive identification of faith and theological and cultural heritage on a church, and not something as vague as “Community Church”, which is vague enough so as to literally mean anything.

I also keep having nightmares about non-denominational chapels that teach counterfeit Christianity, and call themselves chapels, when technically they are not chapels at all but parish churches, since chapel has a specific historical meaning, for example, the beautiful open air chapels one finds in much of Greece, or the chapels in royal palaces and hospitals and prisons which exist to provide chaplaincy. It is not a generic word for a building that houses a congregation (whereas ironically, the words basillca actually is; most traditional churches following the plan of either a Roman basillica, or a Greek cruciform pattern, or the circular design that we see in, for instance, the beautiful churches on the Danish island of Bornholm and also on the Swedish island of Goteborg, both of which feature a similar style of traditional Lutheran iconography. And then there are the lovely stave churches of Norway, which are cruciform and have in many cases original iconography, although sadly the Fantoft Stave Church I visited in Bergen did not, as it was a replica of the original which had been burned down by someone who identified as a Satanist and as a Neo-Nazi in the early 1990s, and it had only recently been completed when I saw it in 2001, and it was such a beautiful church; its iconography had dated from the 18th or 19th century and was not original, and there was some debate about whether to try to recreate the original iconography or the 19th century iconography but in any case the Church of Norway had not yet been able to budget that restoration, but at least they had rebuilt the stave church, within a year of my visit. And they had a very friendly young woman serving as hostess to the various people like myself who were walking a short distance into the woods even in the middle of the day during the middle of the week to see it, in the lovely suburban borough of Fana.

The stave church has since received a baptismal font ideal for the baptism of infants, which is still quite common in Norway despite the decline in popular piety. And they have installed some artwork, although it is not as extensive as it used to be.

Fantoft Stave Church - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Markie Boy]

I liked Remnant Radio at first - protestants trying to re-connect with history it seemed. Then when I heard them mention how faith and politics really should basically be disconnected they lost me.

You can't support the pro-choice, pro-LGBTQ stuff - and follow Jesus.