Dinosaurs...?

[ToTheStars]

I'm wondering what Christians think about dinosaurs.

Human evolution is such a hot topic, and lots of Christians are against the idea. But why don't I ever hear of Christians being against the idea of dinosaurs?

Just because they aren't mentioned in the Bible, does that mean they never existed?

How do you explain fossils that have been carbon dated back to millions of years ago?

That God is trying to trick us or something?

 

[Key]

I'm wondering what Christians think about dinosaurs.

Well they are cool..

Human evolution is such a hot topic, and lots of Christians are against the idea. But why don't I ever hear of Christians being against the idea of dinosaurs?

Can't object to Evidence. They were there, they did exist. That much is true.

Just because they aren't mentioned in the Bible, does that mean they never existed?

a car is not mentioned in the bible, neither is a computer, but.. yet... here they are....

How do you explain fossils that have been carbon dated back to millions of years ago?

Eh, I don't try to explain it. That's our best guess by what we have to work with. Sounds good to me.

That God is trying to trick us or something?

Nahh.

But maybe we are trying to trick ourselves.

God Bless

Key

 

[ShainaBrina]

I'm wondering what Christians think about dinosaurs.

Human evolution is such a hot topic, and lots of Christians are against the idea. But why don't I ever hear of Christians being against the idea of dinosaurs?

There's no reason to be against dinosaurs.

Just because they aren't mentioned in the Bible, does that mean they never existed?

Actually they are in the bible, you can find them in Job.

How do you explain fossils that have been carbon dated back to millions of years ago?

The fossils are real, it's the dating method that has been proven to be faulty.

That God is trying to trick us or something?

God isn't trying to trick us, the bible is accurate. You may enjoy checking out some of the creation science sites like answersingenesis. There is more and more scientific evidence pointing to the validity of the Bible being discovered all the time.

Blessings
Shaina

 

[Macca]

I'm wondering what Christians think about dinosaurs.

Human evolution is such a hot topic, and lots of Christians are against the idea. But why don't I ever hear of Christians being against the idea of dinosaurs?

Just because they aren't mentioned in the Bible, does that mean they never existed?

How do you explain fossils that have been carbon dated back to millions of years ago?

That God is trying to trick us or something?

Dinosaurs are mentioned several times in Job and Isaiah.
I have no doubt that juvenile dinosaurs were on the Ark with Noah and his family.
It seems the climate change after the "waters above the firmament" (Gen 1: 6) were broken was what killed off the dinosaurs. They were cold blooded creatures, so when the canopt of water around the earth was destroyed, the temperature was not suitable for them they perished in the new climate conditions.
Seeing as there was only seven of each kind on the Ark, there would have been many more left on the earth drowned and leave fossils.
The carbon dating process used,is often used as many time as required to get a date that will prove evolutionary time frame.

 

[theVirginian]

Another theory is that they existed during a previous incarnation of the planet and were either allowed to die off and then the Earth was flooded or everything was destroyed by the flood, the aftermath of which is where Genesis begins. Why go through all that trouble? I don't know. It could be as simple as making oil so in the future my Toyota goes vrooom.

 

[Macca]

Another theory is that they existed during a previous incarnation of the planet and were either allowed to die off and then the Earth was flooded or everything was destroyed by the flood, the aftermath of which is where Genesis begins. Why go through all that trouble? I don't know. It could be as simple as making oil so in the future my Toyota goes vrooom.

This is a difficult theory to follow if you take the word used in Gen 1 for day (Strong's H3117 yowm/ yome) to mean a period of 24 hours, which is the generally accepted translation.
If you do accept this translation then there is no scope for the "gap theory" that suggests what you have put forward.

 

[Rafael]

Humans very often guess about things they have no power to confirm with knowledge they don't have....... The whole planet and universe seem to be set up for us to learn about what it points to in a Creator. Even our position in the Milky Way is opportune to learning, as it is between the spokes of cosmic dust - letting us see the other galaxies and the very center of our own. God does these things for us....
Dinosaurs lived at some time, but we think of time in such a linear way when time is relative to the will of God, IMO. Someday. we will know as we are known....

1Co 13:12 Now we see things imperfectly as in a cloudy mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity. All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God now knows me completely..

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Dinosaurs are mentioned several times in Job and Isaiah.
I have no doubt that juvenile dinosaurs were on the Ark with Noah and his family.
It seems the climate change after the "waters above the firmament" (Gen 1: 6) were broken was what killed off the dinosaurs. They were cold blooded creatures, so when the canopt of water around the earth was destroyed, the temperature was not suitable for them they perished in the new climate conditions.
Seeing as there was only seven of each kind on the Ark, there would have been many more left on the earth drowned and leave fossils.
The carbon dating process used,is often used as many time as required to get a date that will prove evolutionary time frame.

On what do you base your conclusion that dinosaurs were cold blooded?

Are you aware that no one has EVER used carbon dating to date a dinosaur fossil?

 

[Macca]

Dinosaurs were giant lizards, as the meaning of the name suggests; terrible lizards.

The original poster suggested fossils being carbon dated.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Dinosaurs were giant lizards, as the meaning of the name suggests; terrible lizards.

The original poster suggested fossils being carbon dated.

Yes, Dinosaur DOES mean terrible lizard... however, they are not, in fact, lizards.

Is the etymology of their name the only reason you conclude they are cold blooded?

The original poster suggested fossils being carbon dated.

And the original poster is misinformed. Dinosaur fossils have never been carbon dated.

 

[Zunalter]

Human evolution is such a hot topic, and lots of Christians are against the idea. But why don't I ever hear of Christians being against the idea of dinosaurs?

Well the reason for that is because its kind of hard to argue about their existance when there is a huge set of bones sticking out of the ground

Just because they aren't mentioned in the Bible, does that mean they never existed?

This is a misnomer, the word dinosaur didnt even exist until the 1800's and so, it would make sense why the word wasnt in the Bible.

How do you explain fossils that have been carbon dated back to millions of years ago?

Carbon dating is flawed. It is only accurate if the amount of C14 has reached equilibrium (the amount decaying is replaced by the amount being built up) However, the rate of C14 is still growing, showing that the world has not yet reached equilibrium (scientists have hypothesised that it would take around 33,000 years for a brand new earth to reach equilibrium...interesting considering that the earth is supposed to be several billion years old).

So, because C14 is still rising, that means there is less in us than there would be if the earth was in equilibrium. Thus, the dates appear older than they are. Also, since you are 16 and I assume still in high school, you should check out a science book about the dating of the rock layers. Tell me if they give a circular argument about dating (fossils dated by rock layer...and then later rock layer dated by fossils)

That God is trying to trick us or something?

Nope, Satan is

 

[Stinker]

I'm wondering what Christians think about dinosaurs.

Human evolution is such a hot topic, and lots of Christians are against the idea. But why don't I ever hear of Christians being against the idea of dinosaurs?

Just because they aren't mentioned in the Bible, does that mean they never existed?

How do you explain fossils that have been carbon dated back to millions of years ago?

That God is trying to trick us or something?

I do not think Noah or the people of Noah's day had dinos for pets. I believe they had died out long before Noah's time. Nor do I believe that '...out of the ground God formed (T-Rex's & raptors) and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. (Gen.2:19)

I do believe that God used (and helped) the Evolutionary process and this is how we are now seeing all the transitional fossils coming on the scene. These we absolutely cannot deny. There are just too many and their quality is getting better. So we must re-examine the traditional Genesis creation story.

 

[Digit]

On what do you base your conclusion that dinosaurs were cold blooded?

Are you aware that no one has EVER used carbon dating to date a dinosaur fossil?

First of all, people have carbon dated dinosaur bones and secondly this forum is not for debate, if you aren't going to contribute to the original posters questions, then please don't contribute period, because the OP is confused enough already... >_>

All the best,

Digit

 

[Macca]

Digit,
Thank you for the site, it is very informative; especially about the tested rocks from Mt. St Helens' volcano.
That puts much doubt on the dating of dinosaur fossils etc.
The thought of a catastrophic event ending the lives of the tested beasts certainly points toward a world wide flood as described in Genesis.

 

[Hoankan]

I'll just refer a site here and suggest you look at Creation of Earth and the Visible World.

http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/english/law_of_god_slobodskoy_1.htm#_Toc36163704

For me, if God showed you all that he did or even a small piece of it, it would be way way way too much for mankind to comprehend (think blue screen of death). The story of Genesis is simple enough to make a point with room for us to learn more as we are ready. So dinosaurs fit in easily enough.

 

[Digit]

Digit,
Thank you for the site, it is very informative; especially about the tested rocks from Mt. St Helens' volcano.
That puts much doubt on the dating of dinosaur fossils etc.
The thought of a catastrophic event ending the lives of the tested beasts certainly points toward a world wide flood as described in Genesis.

Heya Macca,

It's a pleasure for the link. I agree in this regard and really like the information that is being presented. I actually subscribe to AnswersInGenesis, and received an issue recently which focuses on Noah's Ark and the great flood. It's a pretty interesting read. They (AiG) do believe that dinosaurs and man lived at the same time however, and show juvenile dinosaurs being led onto the ark. I can't say I ever considered this possibility. I guess I always assumed all the animals would need to be full adults.

To the OP, Answers have lots of good articles on dinosaurs. Go do a search and enjoy the reading.

Cheers!

Digit

 

[EnemyPartyII]

First of all, people have carbon dated dinosaur bones and secondly this forum is not for debate, if you aren't going to contribute to the original posters questions, then please don't contribute period, because the OP is confused enough already... >_>

All the best,

Digit

Who is debating? I'm
A. asking a question to clarify, and B. pointing out a fact

so again, A. Is there any reason beyond the etymology of the name to consider dinosaurs cold blooded? and B. No, NO ONE has ever carbon dated dinosaur fossils.

If you think I'm incorrect about this last point, please link me to a source that reproduces a reputeable laboratory's experiments, and I shall instantly apologise and retract my statement. The website previously linked does NOT give such an example.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

I'm wondering what Christians think about dinosaurs.

Human evolution is such a hot topic, and lots of Christians are against the idea. But why don't I ever hear of Christians being against the idea of dinosaurs?

Just because they aren't mentioned in the Bible, does that mean they never existed?

How do you explain fossils that have been carbon dated back to millions of years ago?

That God is trying to trick us or something?

The simple answer to your question... The Genesis section of the Bible is a collection of myth and alegory and oral lore passed down by word of mouth for thousands of years until such time as it was codified.

As an allegory, most of Genesis works beautifully well. However, to imagine that anything in Genesis prior to the Flood event is intended to be taken literally is way off the mark.

There is NO empirical evidence suggesting that Genesis is a literally correct account of Creation. Some Christians choose to believe that Genesis is a perfectly correct history textbook, but an awful lot of us don't.

Personally, I see no reason to imagine that Genesis should be taken literally, or that God wants us to.

Dinosaur fossils rather support this interpretation.

 

[Mallon]

The word "Dinosaurs" caught my eye, since that's what I study for a living.
Your question is a good one, ToTheStars, and I suggest you might try bringing it to the Origins Theology forum for a more diverse array of well-informed answers. Simply put, it is still entirely possible to be Christian and accept what science has to say about the demise of the dinosaurs, 65 million years ago.

 

[Macca]

The simple answer to your question... The Genesis section of the Bible is a collection of myth and alegory and oral lore passed down by word of mouth for thousands of years until such time as it was codified.

As an allegory, most of Genesis works beautifully well. However, to imagine that anything in Genesis prior to the Flood event is intended to be taken literally is way off the mark.

There is NO empirical evidence suggesting that Genesis is a literally correct account of Creation. Some Christians choose to believe that Genesis is a perfectly correct history textbook, but an awful lot of us don't.

Personally, I see no reason to imagine that Genesis should be taken literally, or that God wants us to.

Dinosaur fossils rather support this interpretation.

Your statement of myths and alegories in Genesis is totally misguided and incorrect.
The first 11 chapters of Genesis are as true as the rest of the Bible; which I know will give cause for people to say that the rest of the Bible is also incorrect, this statement lacks truth. The Bible is true.