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But please be fair, _you_ were the one who took the other poster to task with this statement:
"The purity of everything will drive you guys nuts, won't it?"
Those are your words.
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By any chance, did you see my rant here?
Acts 11:9 But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
Is AV claiming to hear voices from heaven? If so, there's a DSM IV code for that.But please be fair, _you_ were the one who took the other poster to task with this statement:
"The purity of everything will drive you guys nuts, won't it?"
Those are your words.
Just interested in understanding your Christianity.
To be honest, AV1611VETS's version of Christianity has so little to do with the Christianity I'm familiar with that the name is meaningless really.
Yup, Different State Past "theory" is undefeatable because it can NEVER be proven wrong!
If you don't understand why this is ridiculous then any further meaningful discussion is pointless.
Let me remind you that death is a required part of life. Nothing can eat without killing something. So obviously there was death before the fall otherwise everything would have starved.
Didn't you ever think that maybe the death from sin was "spiritual death" and not physical death?
I could concoct a detailed theory about a cosmic aardvark named Ted who existed before the big bang but it would be completely useless as science.
Creationist thinking is also completely useless. It explains nothing, predicts nothing, and doesn't help us understand or better apply ANYTHING.
Creationists, stop being useless and put all that brain power into something that's going to actually make a difference. Please.
-God Bless
Thanks for admitting it. So if you were a bible believer would you not want something that could never be wrong?Yup, Different State Past "theory" is undefeatable because it can NEVER be proven wrong!
I laugh still. God is funny.I was a creationist not long ago, and I know I would have laughed at you if you proposed something like this to me then.
Now now, don't project.I can almost smell the sweat of desperation coming from these creationists every time they post stuff like this.
Right on up till after the flood as well. Tribulation also and millennium.You are obviously grasping at straws if you can stretch verses about thorns, legless serpents, and pain in child birth into "reality was completely different before the fall!"
False. It dispels the lies. It restores meaning to the universe.Creationist thinking is also completely useless. It explains nothing, predicts nothing, and doesn't help us understand or better apply ANYTHING.
Thanks for admitting it. So if you were a bible believer would you not want something that could never be wrong?
Why would anyone care for a long list of what science can't prove wrong? That is increasingly clear. No surprises there. What you need is a short list of things you can prove! Starting with the laws in the past that you have used to model fantasy past primordial fantasy lands.Oh, you like logical fallacies, here are a few other statements that can never be proved wrong:
1. Manbearpig (replace with any mythical being) exists.
2. The universe is the product of design.
3. Human civilization is the product of a "matrix" style simulation.
4. There are other multiple parallel universes.
5. I have an invisible dragon in my garden.
6. A deity created the universe yesterday with embedded history and memories.
Want more?
False.Why would anyone care for a long list of what science can't prove wrong? That is increasingly clear. No surprises there. What you need is a short list of things you can prove! Starting with the laws in the past that you have used to model fantasy past primordial fantasy lands.
Why would anyone care for a long list of what science can't prove wrong?
That is increasingly clear. No surprises there. What you need is a short list of things you can prove!
That'd be pretty short for scientists indeed! Because I don't think scientists ever "prove" anything. They always just come up with a lot of evidence in support of something. I think mathematicians and moonshiners are the ones capable of "proof".
Why would anyone care for a long list of what science can't prove wrong? That is increasingly clear. No surprises there. What you need is a short list of things you can prove! Starting with the laws in the past that you have used to model fantasy past primordial fantasy lands.False.
Try again.
I was trying to make a point. No list is needed, since nothing can ever be proven, except in strict theoretical models like math.Why would anyone care for a long list of what science can't prove wrong? That is increasingly clear. No surprises there. What you need is a short list of things you can prove! Starting with the laws in the past that you have used to model fantasy past primordial fantasy lands.
Falsify a same state past then!CabVet is trying to be clever to you Dad. He's talking about a concept the Science Slaves call "unfalsifiability". If you propose an idea that can't even be shown how to "falsify" it, then you haven't provided anything of value.
Absurd. Your physical only science is a little mouse compared to the lion of a spiritual also affected past. Your mouse cannot prove it right or wrong.Even if your idea is RIGHT it has to have something about it that tells you how to test AGAINST IT. So if you know what to look for to prove it wrong. If you can't prove it wrong then you have a really strong idea.
Get over the notion that science has the ability to falsify even what it bases all it's models on! (forget anything beyond that)But if you come up with an idea that doesn't even have the ability to be falsified then you can't even test the idea and it doesn't have any value in science (or logic really).
No. God is a Scientist. So called science folks are deluded worldly wise men.But you and I both know God doesn't care about science or logic or even giving his followers a reason to believe in anything that can even be remotely "tested". The strength of belief comes from its purity and faith.
Then they can be fishbowl slaves.This is the problem with the Science Slaves. They can't just take someone's word for it. Always gotta test stuff!
Evidence for a same state past?That'd be pretty short for scientists indeed! Because I don't think scientists ever "prove" anything. They always just come up with a lot of evidence in support of something. ...
Says who? The bible is about proof. God proves us. He proved Himself to us. Science is about doubting proof and telling fables that cannot be true or proven.I was trying to make a point. No list is needed, since nothing can ever be proven, except in strict theoretical models like math.
You're, again, using the wrong term.
If you remove the first question you've actually succeeded in writing something containing 100% lies and assumptions.Says who? The bible is about proof. God proves us. He proved Himself to us. Science is about doubting proof and telling fables that cannot be true or proven.
No, what I said was true. God knows what proof is. He knows how to manifest Himself to us when we ask Him to.If you remove the first question you've actually succeeded in writing something containing 100% lies and assumptions.
Or is it perhaps that you don't understand the implications and meaning of proof?
No, what I said was true. God knows what proof is. He knows how to manifest Himself to us when we ask Him to.
Science knows squat. It models fantasy worlds and alternate creations and universes in a speck.
If I divide your posts into parts:Says who? The bible is about proof. God proves us. He proved Himself to us. Science is about doubting proof and telling fables that cannot be true or proven.
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