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Different kind of flashback? [trigger warning: CSA]

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I've had flashbacks off and on through my whole adult life. Nearly always, they were related to being abused by my step-dad as a teen. It was like the past reality would overlay the present reality, and I would have to deal with both realities at the same time (usually happens during intimate times with my DH, so both layers are intense but polar opposites).

Through some counseling and prayer with a couple of my pastors, I started getting some relief from those flashbacks this past spring. DH and I had taken a little time off of "intimacy" so that I could go through some healing, and we were gradually getting back into it.

Then one night, I had a completely different experience. This time it wasn't really two "realities" so much as it was two "me's" in the same reality. Instead of the past overlaying the present, it was like I became a younger version of me but I was still experiencing the present fully.

So before, there would be times where DH and I were together, and I would "see" my step-dad in the same place and doing the same things to me that DH was doing. But it was the "now-me" experiencing this dual reality (which is bad enough, but at least I was an adult-self with some emotional maturity and perspective to work with).

This time, my step-dad was not there. It was just DH. But I felt like I suddenly became a 6 or 7 year old little girl in that place with DH. Even though what we were doing was nothing extreme, to a 6-year-old, it's devastating. The grown-up me was also there on the outside, covering for the trauma being inflicted inside. But my primary consciousness was as a little girl, and the destruction, fear, and trauma of those few moments have sent me in a tailspin for several weeks now. I spent several days just in shock, it took weeks before I finally emailed my pastors to tell them that anything at all had happened, and another couple of weeks before I found any words to begin to describe the event.

Have you read the book Cross Roads? Imagine being a 6-year-old transported into an adult's body while doing adult-type things. There's no turning away from the "windows", and there's no maturity or perspective with which to understand what is happening. You don't know how you're seeing an adult's leg on your body. You don't know why this man is doing this to you. You don't have any choice, you just feel extremely violated and terrified and panicked, and you can't even yell out--you're just frozen into that place.

So I've been searching online trying to find descriptions of this kind of flashback and can't find anything. Like I said, my "normal" flashbacks have been like dual realities being experienced by the one me. But this time it was more like two me's in the same body with the "kid-me" being severely traumatized by the experience. I wish I had a term for it, sorry.

That evening as things were building, I had initiated the time with DH since he's given me the freedom to be the only one to initiate. I knew almost right away that I wasn't as ready for it as I thought I was. But I figured it would be just the "normal" flashback, and I had some tools for how to deal with it, so I kept going. Then this hit me out of the blue, completely unexpected, and so incredibly different than anything I've experienced before. The fear and pain of that night still has a grip on me--it's been about 5 weeks now. Last week and this week, I've been so incredibly tired that I've hardly been able to work at all. My pastors are at a loss. I don't know what else to do. Any suggestions on how to process this thing?
 
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i don't have a lot of experience with flash backs. Past abuse can certainly come out in different ways. you are not alone with old experiences reappearing in present life. Learning how to understand it all and put it together is the real trick. Keep searching , learning and digging for solutions. Don't be afraid. Good luck...
 
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Hi PressingThrough

"Sometimes, when I'm inside, deep, deep, down inside myself, I can see what's happening still on the surface. But I'm watching it from afar, and it's not me I'm watching......I can see myself talking and interacting and doing and feeling, and yet it's not myself, it's just someone else, someone I don't know, someone I have no connection with. What they do and what they say surprises me. I don't know what's coming next. It just is. It just happens."


Does this seem like what you experienced? Feel free to PM if you want to talk some more about it.

Many blessings,
LittleH
 
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Yes, I have those experiences, too. I'd definitely say those are dissociative episodes. But even in those moments, it's still "me", just far away. I broke my arm when I was 13, and I remember the feeling of the pain being very far away. That's how I knew I was in shock. But I still felt the pain, I was still in my own body. And that's kind of how it is with my usual dissociative experiences. I see it all, but it's very far away, and sometimes my body is just automatic pilot and doing things and interacting with people, but I'm not really engaged.

This was different still. This was like being "me" at two ages at the same time. Have you seen those Russian stacking dolls, where there are dolls inside dolls? It was kind of like that. I was the doll inside the doll.

So...I've since had some memories surface that seem to correspond to that experience I described above. I've never had repressed memories emerge before, and I'm still not sure how much I trust what I'm remembering. There are flashes of memory I've had all along, but just thought they were my own imagination because I couldn't link them with anything. Then that experience I described earlier...along with some other flashes surfacing...it seems the pieces are coming together as a repressed memory surfacing. It's all been a crazy roller coaster with this. I just don't know what's real.

As far as I can tell, the memories are of an event with my dad, maybe more than once. I can hardly bring myself to say that because, even though I've always been uncomfortable with him, I just thought it was because he's crazy (literally...certifiable sociopath), but I didn't think he had ever touched me like what I'm remembering. I've had continuous memories of the things my step-dad did, but I was older at the time, and I no longer have any contact with him. So the years I've spent coping with that...it's just a whole different experience with this. My dad is still part of my life. My sister is about to adopt and she plans on having him help with her kids through the process. If this is really him in my memories, he shouldn't have access to her kids like that. But I don't want to talk about this with anyone. He already has restricted access to his other grandkids (my kids, my sister's kids, and my step-brother's kids) just because he's crazy and always makes everyone uncomfortable. But the sister who is adopting isn't as bothered by him as the rest of us are (partly because she's so dysfunctional herself).

Sorry, I'm just unloading here. No one here knows me...I actually posted on CF a lot a few years ago under a different screenname, but I don't want to risk any of this getting connected to me IRL. But no one IRL gets it. Everyone is tired of hearing from me, or prefers to live in denial that all of this is that big of a deal, or tries to understand but just simply can't. I'm way too insecure to keep putting myself out there when no one "gets it". I feel so incredibly lonely. My pastors have tried so hard...but they just can't understand. They try, but they're so far off base with what's really going on inside me. I've tried and tried and tried to explain it to them, but it's just not sinking in. My DH is supportive, but is stressed and afraid and worried, too much so to keep dumping on him. Most of my family is denial, thinking we've all been "miraculously healed" already, so none of this should even be brought up anymore. It took me two hours last night to get to sleep because the loneliness is just unbearable. I went to church this morning, and refused to be honest or open with anyone. It just hurts too much. That look in their eyes..."oh you poor thing"..."but I don't know what to do with you"..."if only you could just be happy and praise God, everything would be okay"..."I'm keeping my distance from you because you're just weird that way"...but I couldn't make myself reach out to anyone. I wanted to connect. I really did. I just can't. It hurts too much to let anyone care. It hurts too much to let anyone in, to try to trust them to care, when they just don't get it. They really, really don't. I'm a pretty good writer and I sometimes share my journal entries with my pastors if it's something that seems like it might help them understand where I am with all this. Their response, if they respond at all, is to heap compliments in a huge, stinking pile about what a good writer I am and how deeply I thought something through and how well I put it all into words. It doesn't matter!! It doesn't help to put it into words if STILL no one gets it!! I don't want compliments. I want someone to understand!!! I want to know what to do about all of this. I want guidance. I want someone to connect with what my experience is like. But they can't. They don't. It's not that they don't want to. They just can't conceive of what it's like inside. It gets harder and harder to tell them anything, but their responses--if they respond at all--are so distant, so formal, so disconnected. I don't know what hurts worse--to not say anything again ever, or to share while knowing full well they're incapable of understanding what I'm saying.

It hurts. It just hurts.

I don't know why I'm saying any of this here, either. I'm just throwing this out into la-la land where all of us are hiding behind anonymous facades hoping that someone will care without really knowing us. What difference does it make? No one is who they say they are anyway. Even IRL, everyone hides behind a façade. We make up stories for who we think we are, and we play the part and read the script well enough to convince ourselves.

I'm so tired of the games. I'm tired of the fight. I'm tired of my head throbbing from the mental pain, from the spiritual struggle inside. I'm tired of wanting to be known, but doing everything in my power to prevent further damage. To know that my dad started all of this, that his extreme selfishness destroyed my soul's ability to connect safely with people, that his momentary satisfaction condemned me to a lifetime of fighting to stay alive and sometimes wishing I could just give up and lose that battle...if only that wasn't just as selfish.

Sorry. It's been a tough day today. I'm gonna shut up now.
 
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