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All other religions are based on you doing something for their god. Christianity is based on God Loving us and what He has done for us.
Divine inspiration remains the province of righteous men and women of all generations.This is a difficult quandary between us. At least from the Lutheran perspective the old and new testaments are not viewed as "That was then, this is now" as some seem to take it. The Bible is viewed as a cohesive whole. So, for Jesus to pull from the OT is to be expected (we would in fact say he inspired it). Therefore, it's not surprising that a verse in Lamentations parallels what he said in Matthew. In fact, it's one of the considerations for what Christians consider canonical.
I understand you see it differently, maybe that Jesus co-opted the OT.
Though Jesus added new things, again the Lutheran would say that prophecy was not closed. It is still possible to receive inspiration. It is just that anything new cannot contradict what came before.
So, my question to you would be: Do you think inspiration from God is still possible?
Personally, Christ makes the most sense to me when I sit in the Heart of Christ....which is gnosticism. The religion of Christianity is something else and different than Christ, and yes, gnosticism generally doesn't fit well with that particular religion. Though the Mystics sure made it work for them.That is one reason why gnosticism doesn't fit well with Christianity - try as hard as some do to smash them together.
Most of the raping and desecration of the earth comes from countries that claim a Christian heritage. IF the 2.2 Billion Christians in the world actually stood up against the harm we are doing to the earth, I have no doubt that things would change.I don't see how improper stewardship of the earth is the sole fault of Christianity.
Than there are us Lovers of God who are not in it to get to Heaven?Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to heaven. Jesus Christ is Gods ONLY Son. There is no other God but Yahweh. All other religions are based on you doing something for their god. Christianity is based on God Loving us and what He has done for us.
This is a difficult quandary between us. At least from the Lutheran perspective the old and new testaments are not viewed as "That was then, this is now" as some seem to take it. The Bible is viewed as a cohesive whole. So, for Jesus to pull from the OT is to be expected (we would in fact say he inspired it). Therefore, it's not surprising that a verse in Lamentations parallels what he said in Matthew. In fact, it's one of the considerations for what Christians consider canonical.
I understand you see it differently, maybe that Jesus co-opted the OT.
Though Jesus added new things, again the Lutheran would say that prophecy was not closed. It is still possible to receive inspiration. It is just that anything new cannot contradict what came before.
So, my question to you would be: Do you think inspiration from God is still possible?
Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to heaven. Jesus Christ is Gods ONLY Son. There is no other God but Yahweh. All other religions are based on you doing something for their god. Christianity is based on God Loving us and what He has done for us.
Hi Lo, What you say has a lot going for it. Grace was always evident 'from the beginning' but the deliverance from Egypt was not a 'salvation' that gives eternal life. At that time The Lord laid upon his people certain prescriptions - circumcision - Passover - the tabernacle rituals - The Law. At that time He said, "Do these things and you will live." In all these things was much good, many lessons and parables. But one of the most important of these was that none of these things could save us from just condemnation. Grace only grace.I would disagree with this statement. The founding moments of Judaism have to do with the Exodus from Egypt, in which HaShem brought us out of Egypt and it wasn't anything we did to do it, and being given the Torah at Sinai, which he did for us and we didn't do anything to deserve it. Heck, we kind of did things NOT to deserve it.
Hi Lo, What you say has a lot going for it. Grace was always evident 'from the beginning' but the deliverance from Egypt was not a 'salvation' that gives eternal life. At that time The Lord laid upon his people certain prescriptions - circumcision - Passover - the tabernacle rituals - The Law. At that time He said, "Do these things and you will live." In all these things was much good, many lessons and parables. But one of the most important of these was that none of these things could save us from just condemnation. Grace only grace.
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The same or similar? I don't think Husayn's historicity is much in dispute, and I know Shi'ites hold him in high regard - very high regard, but I've not known them to go so far as to say he is a god. Am I wrong?
Divine inspiration remains the province of righteous men and women of all generations.
I assume that means you wouldn't necessarily object to Jesus introducing something new, then. So is there something he said that you think contradicts prior revelation?
I,m not sure he introduced anything.
I,m not sure he even existed.
It is more about getting to heaven instead of bringing heaven down.
That's a very Lutheran answer. You should come join us.
I see. It's an interesting subject (I have a degree in history), but probably a diversion from the root of your concern. Still, I will ask what you think of the historicity of the old testament?
This seems more your central concern, yet expressed in a poetic way, so I may be misinterpreting. Are you saying Christians are focused on salvation rather than morality? That is true. As many have pointed out here, there is nothing especially unique about Christian (or Jewish) morality. Now, it may be expressed in a way that better resonated with the culture of the Levant. It may have been all they had at the time for a moral code ... they couldn't be expected to know Confucius in that time and place.
But, all in all, morality boils down to a few simple things: Matthew 7:12 (Leviticus 19:18). What focuses Christians on something else is the question: If it's so easy to express morality, why is it never accomplished? And what follows from that is the question: If it's never to be accomplished, what do we have to hope for?
How did morallity get into the picture?
What makes you think you know what I have for concerns, let alone the root?
As I said, it was hard to interpret what you meant. I took a shot, and apparently I was wrong.
My apologies.
What do you think distinguishes Christianity from other religions?
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