Not if someone doesn't say anything when they approach the communion rail.
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Not if someone doesn't say anything when they approach the communion rail.No..we practice close(d) communion here in the one true church (WELS that is..note the dripping sarcasm). You'd have to become a member in order to join with us in the feast of the Lord.
No..we practice close(d) communion here in the one true church (WELS that is..note the dripping sarcasm). You'd have to become a member in order to join with us in the feast of the Lord.
Is it Lutheran Brethren that don't believe in all the Lutheran confessions?You'd be welcome at a Lutheran Brethren Congregation.
Come on down!
We recognize we are in Communion with you already, even if you don't partake in our congregations.
Marv
Is it Lutheran Brethren that don't believe in all the Lutheran confessions?
Yes that's a bit odd... wonder if they are lutheran enough to be lutheranYes. I'm not sure of the specifics, but I do find it odd that they hold to the Small Catechism but not the Large Catechism.
Is it Lutheran Brethren that don't believe in all the Lutheran confessions?
Okay.. is there a reason why you don't affirm them now that they are handy and widespread, even in Norway?No, that would be incorrect, we neither affirm nor deny them. Confessionalism didn't make it to Norway in time to get on the boat. Things like the Formula are a nonevent in our history.
That said we do use and teach from the Book of Concord.
Our Academic Dean and Systematics Professor has his S.T.M from Concordia in Fort Wayne and his PhD from Concordia in St Louis so you can imagine we are pretty close theologically in most things with the LCMS.
Marv
That's what I sorta thoughtWaitin' for the show to start.
That's what I sorta thought
Did you ever get that coke from me last night?? Would be tasty with the popcorn.
Okay, thanks. I do not know much about how it was in Norway and Denmark, but in Sweden the Augsburg Confession and the Catcheisms were officially endorsed in 1592, and about 80 years later the whole book of Concord. But that is Sweden, not Norway and Denmark as far as I know. Sadly enough, the former state church of Sweden is worse than the ones in Norway and Denmark.What I can tell of the history is that in much of Scandinavia, Confessions were seen with a rather jaundiced eye since the doctrine of sola Scriptura was held so highly among many of the people. In both Norway and Denmarck, about all that was accepted was the Small Catechism and the Augsburg Confession, plus of course the three historical Creeds those were accepted before the countries were even Lutheran.
No particularly strong or popular theologian ever rose up to promote the Book of Concord in either country. Many of the ministers were simply Catholic priests who became Lutheran on the day the state churches became Lutheran, early instructions to Lutheran ministers were always careful to instruct to distribute both bread and wine to the parishioners.
It's a shame too, those Catholic priests really ended up being the root of the dead state church that lead to pietism as the reform movement. To say the level of knowledge of theology among the clergy and the parisioners was low would probably be generous. Serious study of the Book of Concord would have been a great improvement. Frankly to this day, I would have wished every Lutheran Brethren who bought a copy of Purpose Driven Life would have bought a Book of Concord instead, their study would have been much more fruitful.
I'm not so sure that we aren't actually in the middle of a fight right now as to whether we will be Lutheran in the future. I think we will, but I'm afraid it's going to be closer than I would have thought. Right now, I'm thinking the ordained elders in our rural parishes will keep us Lutheran. I haven't run into a single one that likes the reforms suggested by the "Church Doctor" who was hired by the synod a few years ago to screw things up, oops, I mean fix problems. Another thing we got from the LCMS.
He seems to be rather adamant that being called Lutheran is a definite problem today.
Marv
I had a very funny reply to that one, but I don't think it is suitable. After all, you are a pastor and this is a christian forum.No nuts... just cheeps.
I had a very funny reply to that one, but I don't think it is suitable. After all, you are a pastor and this is a christian forum.
En rettesnor for tro, lære og liv
Den Evangelisk Lutherske Frikirke tror, lærer og bekjenner:
Guds ord er den eneste regel og rettesnor for tro, lære og liv. Dette omfatter de profetiske og apostoliske skrifter i Det gamle testamentet og Det nye testamentet (Bibelen).
Den evangelisk-lutherske bekjennelse er grunnet i, og i samsvar med Guds ord. Denne bekjennelsen er uttrykt i den apostoliske, den nikenske og den athanasianske trosbekjennelse, samt i den augsburgske konfesjon og Luthers lille katekisme.
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