I was googling for a Presbyterian church in Manchester UK, and a congregation of Welsh Presbyterians showed up, but they also call themselves Calvinistic Methodists, so I just wondered if anyone knew the difference?
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Difference between Presbyterian and Calvinistic Methodist
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They're Methodists who believe in predestination. It is unusual, but there are also Presbyterians that believe in Free Will (Cumberland Presbyterian denomination).
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If you believe Wikipedia, Calvinist Methodism is actually a Welsh movement, which is both Methodist and Presbyterian. They don't give much on the theology, but remember that in the US, Methodism had a Calvinist branch. George Whitefield was one of the founders of US Methodism, and was Calvinist. Methodism was originally a renewal movement within the Anglicans, trying to reach the unreached, and change the people's lives. It was thus evangelistic, and also tried to educate people and improve their lives. Much of this emphasis does not depend upon one's soteriology. So it is not impossible to combine much of early Methodism with a Calvinist theology.
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It would seem that it would also have something to do with Polity. As noted before the Cumberland Presbyterians are HARDLY Presbyterian theologically, but it is their Polity (ruling by Elders) that keeps 'Presbyterian' as part of their identity. It could be that Calvinistic Methodists hold to Reformed views and Reformed theology but have an episcopal (little 'e') form of government and polity which would make them more like the Methodists. There's just not much out there on them. It's hard to judge ANY congregation simply by the name or "what's over the door." Visit, talk with the Teaching Elder or Ruling Elders of the Session, and discern if they are in the truth or not.
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The Presbyterian Church of Wales is also called the Calvinistic Methodist Church, and has used both names interchangeably for quite a while. Its origins are with the Welsh Methodist revival of the 18th century. They have branches in in London, Manchester, Birmingham, Coventry and Liverpool. They're not particularly conservative, but they are very, very Welsh. See Wikipedia.
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