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Didn't God construct the 24-hour day on the fourth Day?

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And as noted above:

I would just go a step further to point out that verse 1:1 isn't actually an event.

Genesis 1:1-2 NRSVUE
[1] When God began to create the heavens and the earth, [2] the earth was complete chaos, and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters.

Verse 1:1 isn't even a complete statement. It's a dependent clause.

It's like saying, when I began to ride my bike to school, it was cold outside. Well, the text doesn't say how long it was cold outside when I began to ride my bike to school.

And with that said, if Genesis days 2 and 3 are describing ex materia processes, then that's just what Genesis is.

Based on the text, this is what you get. And it just is what it is. I don't try to force the text to say things that it doesn't say.
 
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We are just going round in circles. We are both repeating things we have written several times before. I feel it might be better for me to leave this discussion, at least for the time being.
 
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I didn't claim that moving the waters around was ex nihilo creation.
And all you're doing here, is agreeing with me. The events of Genesis days 2 and 3 are good examples where, what we see actually happening in the text, is God taking things that are already there, and moving them around.

And that just is what it is.
 
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We are just going round in circles. We are both repeating things we have written several times before. I feel it might be better for me to leave this discussion, at least for the time being.
Ok. All the best. When you figure out a way to make progress, feel free to let me know. Until then, I'll be sticking with what the Bible says.

Genesis 1:1-2 NRSVUE
[1] When God began to create the heavens and the earth, [2] the earth was complete chaos, and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters.

Verse 1:1 isn't even a complete statement. It's a dependent clause.

It's like saying, when I began to ride my bike to school, it was cold outside. Well, the text doesn't say how long it was cold outside when I began to ride my bike to school.

And with that said, if Genesis days 2 and 3 are describing ex materia processes, then that's just what Genesis is. Verse 1 alone isn't sufficient to make a case for ex nihilo creation.

And this is all perfectly legitimate in terms of interpretation of the text. And there isn't much anyone can do about it.
 
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He'd already created the waters on Day 1:

I'll also point out that, I think it's interesting how everyone wants to repeat that God created the heavens and the Earth in 6 days, he created it in 6 days. He created it in 6 days, he created it in 6 days.

Everyone wants to repeat that, but then when you actually look at the 6 days and see that nothing is actually being created Ex nihilo, then people want a backtrack and want to say that the heavens and the Earth were already created in verse 1 and that the heavens and the Earth weren't actually being created the rest of the 6 days, even though God speaks on the other days, and we know that God creates by speaking, people still want to say that nothing was being created when God was speaking the rest of the 6 days.

It's just silly. The church is going to have to deal with this failed tradition for centuries to come.
 
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Actually it's called evening and morning, not day and night.
 
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Amen, I agree it means the end of any stage of God's work, not sunset.

It has been overlooked or ignored for centuries that God created the sun and moon on the 4th day which was set in place for seasons, seasons, years and days, seem to indicate a system of TIME.

The Hebrew word Yom can be used in various ways and in Genesis 1 during the creation it seems more to mean a period of time, or span of time, or at some point in time, instead of a literal 24-hour day as the first translators and churches felt it did.

God Bless
 
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At the end of each Day, the Bible said, “There was evening and there was morning.” However, if the sun and moon were created on the fourth Day, how did evenings and mornings happen during the first three days?
Because the planet was already rotating at a specific speed when He began.

A "day," is not measured by the presence of the sun, but by measuring one rotation of the planet.
 
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