It is not necessary for Mary to have been born without original sin in order to bear Jesus without original sin.
Upvote
0
Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
It is not necessary for Mary to have been born without original sin in order to bear Jesus without original sin.Why is it necessary for Mary to have been born without original to bear Jesus without original sin. If Mary could have been born without original sin, why not Jesus?
Do you have anything definitive that explains this as Orthodox teaching?hey Philothei and Orthocat -- I'm pretty sure its Orthodox teaching that Christ DID assume the pre-fallen nature, but that He also assumed the blameless consequences of sin such as hunger, need to sleep, etc. This is the distinction between Him and the Theotokos - she never committed any personal sins but Christ was wholly without sin including without the fallen nature that inclines us towards sins. Otherwise her sinlessness and His are the same.
Did Mary ever need forgiveness of sin?
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...RdSC78&sig=AHIEtbTLqY_ZgZQ3OFZNdiMOYt-gEqo9Jw
According to St. Maximus Christ assumed everything "that man is" the corruptible nature of his. He assumed his weakness and corrubtibility.
That is why St. Maximus said that what was accomplished by Christ was
from Being to well being to eternal being.... I could not copy and paste this is a pdf file.
Even of original sins?
Maybe another human like her could have been the sinless sacrifice instead of God having to come down and do it Himself? Maybe at least a few humans could earn their own salvation by leading sinless lives? Or maybe not.
The Bible says there is none righteous, not one. Only Jesus lived a sinless life.
Even Mary called herself a sinner. Was she being falsely humble? Then she sinned. Nothing in Scripture prophesies a virgin born of a virgin. If She had to be so special or if God wanted elevated to such status as the RCC et al have, where is the evidence in Scripture? Mary was a nice Jewish girl conceived and born in the usual method, and who had at least 7 children after giving birth to Jesus.
chapter and verse?
Nope, she was conceived without sin. However, this does not mean that she did not need a savior. Indeed, her savior is her own Son, Jesus Christ. However, she needed a savior in that Jesus Christ saved her from even being conceived with sin.
is childbirth a sin?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?