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<blockquote data-quote="doubtingmerle" data-source="post: 57229011" data-attributes="member: 6687"><p><span style="font-size: 10px"> </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Uh, I own a copy of the OLd Testament. If the Old Testament actually says what you claim, that the messiah must be the literal seed of David, and must be a human being, then please show me the verse that says that. Endless handwaving about refereces that say it is in there somewhere means nothing to me. If it is there, what verse says that?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">OK, many expected an earthly messiah. Is there any verse that said that the messiah needs to be the literal seed of David?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Writings of the Gnostics indicate belief in Christ as an Aeon or emanation of God, not as a literal person. Where did this belief come from? It is very difficult to believe that the complex world of emanations from God that Valentinus taught could have started from an earthly Jesus. He speaks of over 30 Aeons including Sophia (wisdom), Logos, Christ, and the Holy Spirit. Where did his belief in a spirit-world Christ come from? Most likely it came from others who believed in a spirit Messiah.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doubtingmerle, post: 57229011, member: 6687"] [SIZE=2] Uh, I own a copy of the OLd Testament. If the Old Testament actually says what you claim, that the messiah must be the literal seed of David, and must be a human being, then please show me the verse that says that. Endless handwaving about refereces that say it is in there somewhere means nothing to me. If it is there, what verse says that? OK, many expected an earthly messiah. Is there any verse that said that the messiah needs to be the literal seed of David? Writings of the Gnostics indicate belief in Christ as an Aeon or emanation of God, not as a literal person. Where did this belief come from? It is very difficult to believe that the complex world of emanations from God that Valentinus taught could have started from an earthly Jesus. He speaks of over 30 Aeons including Sophia (wisdom), Logos, Christ, and the Holy Spirit. Where did his belief in a spirit-world Christ come from? Most likely it came from others who believed in a spirit Messiah. [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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