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This thread is not intended to debate the 4th commandment specifically so please do not discuss/debate the Sabbath in this thread as it is not allowed per the forum guidelines. The intent of this thread is to look at what laws if any ended at the cross.
I think it’s important to note that God separated His laws from the very beginning. Many want to lump all laws and commandments as one, when God did not. This is an important distinction because once we get to the New Testament we see what exactly ended when Christ became our sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins we won’t make the mistake of claiming “all laws” ended, when they did not.
Genesis 26:5
because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.”
Nehemiah 9:13
“You came down also on Mount Sinai, And spoke with them from heaven, And gave them just ordinances and true laws, Good statutes and commandments.
2 Chronicles 33:8
and I will not again remove the foot of Israel from the land which I have appointed for your fathers—only if they are careful to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses.”
So here we have ordinances, law, statues and commandments. And Moses gave the ordinances by his “hand”.
When we get to the New Covenant God writes His laws in our hearts and mind- so they didn’t end in the New Covenant. Jeremiah 31:33 Hebrews 8:10-12
I hope and pray for those seeking to do the will of God if you are going to write out obeying God’s commandments you would have clear scripture stating so, if one is seeking to do the will of God and not our own.
I have yet to see one verse that says when Jesus died all laws have ended at the cross which some teach.
This is what ended from scriptures:
Col 2: 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
God’s Ten Commandments is God-written- the finger of God Exodus 31:18 and this includes Ten Commandments Exodus 34:28 not nine or eight. God’s law is holy, just and good Romans 7:12 and not grievous 1 John 5:3
What ended was only the law of Moses contained in ordinances. Eph 2:15 that was handwritten not God-written by Moses 1 Cor 33:8
When Jesus died He became our perfect sacrifice for sins, so we no longer are required to sacrifice blood and food offerings as shown in Hebrews 10 because Jesus took the place.
Does this mean that all laws have ended? Of course not and shown throughout the entire scripture. Lawlessness (without law) in unbiblical. The definition of sin is lawlessness 1 John 3:4 and the law just points out sin so we know what to keep. Romans 3:20, Romans 7:7 and breaking one of the commandments is like breaking them all. James 2:10-12
Jesus did not come to destroy God’s law He came to magnify (make greater not lesser). Isaiah 42:21 Matthew 5:17-30 He showed us an the example how to live our lives (without sin)
1 Peter 2: 21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps: 22 “Who committed no sin, Nor was deceit found in His mouth”
The scripture states the Holy Spirit will teach us all things. John 14:26 We receive the Holy Spirit to convict us of sins (lawlessness) John 16:8 (those who have not harden their hearts). Jesus gives us the Holy Spirit when we want to keep the commandments John 14:15-18 so we don’t have to do it on our own and the Spirit is given when we obey. Acts 2:38, Acts 5:32 so if you want to truly understand scripture we need to obey and the Holy Spirit will be our guide to teach us all things. The Holy Spirit will never guide you away from God’s law. That spirit does not come from God.
Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Who do you think wants us to sin (lawlessness- without law-breaking God’s law). Scripture tells us:
He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8
I hope those seeking God in Truth and Spirit which is how we are called to worship Him John 4:23-24 will prayerfully read the scriptures in this post and ask the Holy Spirit to guide us in all Truth and ask God to replace our will, for His will, because when Jesus comes we don’t want to hear these words…
Matthew 7:
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’(Without law).
I think it’s important to note that God separated His laws from the very beginning. Many want to lump all laws and commandments as one, when God did not. This is an important distinction because once we get to the New Testament we see what exactly ended when Christ became our sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins we won’t make the mistake of claiming “all laws” ended, when they did not.
Genesis 26:5
because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.”
Nehemiah 9:13
“You came down also on Mount Sinai, And spoke with them from heaven, And gave them just ordinances and true laws, Good statutes and commandments.
2 Chronicles 33:8
and I will not again remove the foot of Israel from the land which I have appointed for your fathers—only if they are careful to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses.”
So here we have ordinances, law, statues and commandments. And Moses gave the ordinances by his “hand”.
When we get to the New Covenant God writes His laws in our hearts and mind- so they didn’t end in the New Covenant. Jeremiah 31:33 Hebrews 8:10-12
I hope and pray for those seeking to do the will of God if you are going to write out obeying God’s commandments you would have clear scripture stating so, if one is seeking to do the will of God and not our own.
I have yet to see one verse that says when Jesus died all laws have ended at the cross which some teach.
This is what ended from scriptures:
Col 2: 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
God’s Ten Commandments is God-written- the finger of God Exodus 31:18 and this includes Ten Commandments Exodus 34:28 not nine or eight. God’s law is holy, just and good Romans 7:12 and not grievous 1 John 5:3
What ended was only the law of Moses contained in ordinances. Eph 2:15 that was handwritten not God-written by Moses 1 Cor 33:8
When Jesus died He became our perfect sacrifice for sins, so we no longer are required to sacrifice blood and food offerings as shown in Hebrews 10 because Jesus took the place.
Does this mean that all laws have ended? Of course not and shown throughout the entire scripture. Lawlessness (without law) in unbiblical. The definition of sin is lawlessness 1 John 3:4 and the law just points out sin so we know what to keep. Romans 3:20, Romans 7:7 and breaking one of the commandments is like breaking them all. James 2:10-12
Jesus did not come to destroy God’s law He came to magnify (make greater not lesser). Isaiah 42:21 Matthew 5:17-30 He showed us an the example how to live our lives (without sin)
1 Peter 2: 21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps: 22 “Who committed no sin, Nor was deceit found in His mouth”
The scripture states the Holy Spirit will teach us all things. John 14:26 We receive the Holy Spirit to convict us of sins (lawlessness) John 16:8 (those who have not harden their hearts). Jesus gives us the Holy Spirit when we want to keep the commandments John 14:15-18 so we don’t have to do it on our own and the Spirit is given when we obey. Acts 2:38, Acts 5:32 so if you want to truly understand scripture we need to obey and the Holy Spirit will be our guide to teach us all things. The Holy Spirit will never guide you away from God’s law. That spirit does not come from God.
Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Who do you think wants us to sin (lawlessness- without law-breaking God’s law). Scripture tells us:
He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8
I hope those seeking God in Truth and Spirit which is how we are called to worship Him John 4:23-24 will prayerfully read the scriptures in this post and ask the Holy Spirit to guide us in all Truth and ask God to replace our will, for His will, because when Jesus comes we don’t want to hear these words…
Matthew 7:
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’(Without law).
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