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<blockquote data-quote="dgiharris" data-source="post: 73679038" data-attributes="member: 322579"><p>The video was worst than I thought it would be.</p><p></p><p>From the get go, the officer was not respectful, "Hey get your ID bro..." </p><p>Why not, "Sir I need your ID.."</p><p></p><p>The black guy asked, "What do you need my ID for" as things escalated</p><p>The Cop said, "I need to know who I'm handing the child off to..."</p><p></p><p>Now, both queries and responses are reasonable, what was NOT reasonable was the officer Assaulting a citizen when there was absolutely no threat whatsoever to the Officer. </p><p></p><p>Is grabbing a citizen by the neck proper police training on obtaining a license?</p><p></p><p><strong>What should have happened is simple. It should have went something like this:</strong></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Cop: "Sir, I need your license for my police report to confirm who you are and who I'm leaving the kid with"</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Man: "Why do you need my ID?"</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Cop: "I just told you, I need to know who I'm leaving the baby with."</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Man: "Well, My name is Mr. XYZ"</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Cop: "Look Sir, I'm not handing off a kid to someone without 100% verification that you are who you say you are"</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Man: "Well, I don't know why you need my license, I don't want to get it, I told you my name is Mr. XYZ"</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Cop: "Listen, either 1 of 2 things is going to happen, either you give me your ID so I can verify that I'm leaving the kid with the right person, or we are calling CPS and they will take the kid. The choice is yours."</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Man: "I don't see why you need my ID"</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Cop: "That's fine sir, you can explain your position to the Judge and CPS."</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Man: "This is BS, I don't understand... I told you who I am"</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Cop: "And just so you know, when you go to court you are still going to need your ID, so last chance. Your choice. What's it going to be? Once I call CPS that is that, if you get your ID at that point it will be too late. So will you get your ID? Yes or no, last chance..."</p><p></p><p>It seems like some cops get so bent out of shape having to explain something to a rattled, upset, scared, and angry citizen whose emotions are making said citizen difficult to deal with. </p><p></p><p>In this case, the citizen wasn't being combative or threatening in the least. </p><p>Police should not be allowed to use violence against the citizenry when they are not in danger. Violence should ONLY be used to enforce the law as a last resort. In this case, the officer should have called CPS. When they arrived and the man "refuses" to hand the kid over THEN violence should have been used. But up until that point the officer should have been calm, cool, and collected.</p><p></p><p>There are plenty of officers who know how to handle unreasonable citizens without instantly resorting to violence, here is one example</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]TXEfqdOF_VY[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>in any event, those are my thoughts on this issue</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dgiharris, post: 73679038, member: 322579"] The video was worst than I thought it would be. From the get go, the officer was not respectful, "Hey get your ID bro..." Why not, "Sir I need your ID.." The black guy asked, "What do you need my ID for" as things escalated The Cop said, "I need to know who I'm handing the child off to..." Now, both queries and responses are reasonable, what was NOT reasonable was the officer Assaulting a citizen when there was absolutely no threat whatsoever to the Officer. Is grabbing a citizen by the neck proper police training on obtaining a license? [B]What should have happened is simple. It should have went something like this:[/B] [INDENT]Cop: "Sir, I need your license for my police report to confirm who you are and who I'm leaving the kid with" Man: "Why do you need my ID?" Cop: "I just told you, I need to know who I'm leaving the baby with." Man: "Well, My name is Mr. XYZ" Cop: "Look Sir, I'm not handing off a kid to someone without 100% verification that you are who you say you are" Man: "Well, I don't know why you need my license, I don't want to get it, I told you my name is Mr. XYZ" Cop: "Listen, either 1 of 2 things is going to happen, either you give me your ID so I can verify that I'm leaving the kid with the right person, or we are calling CPS and they will take the kid. The choice is yours." Man: "I don't see why you need my ID" Cop: "That's fine sir, you can explain your position to the Judge and CPS." Man: "This is BS, I don't understand... I told you who I am" Cop: "And just so you know, when you go to court you are still going to need your ID, so last chance. Your choice. What's it going to be? Once I call CPS that is that, if you get your ID at that point it will be too late. So will you get your ID? Yes or no, last chance..."[/INDENT] It seems like some cops get so bent out of shape having to explain something to a rattled, upset, scared, and angry citizen whose emotions are making said citizen difficult to deal with. In this case, the citizen wasn't being combative or threatening in the least. Police should not be allowed to use violence against the citizenry when they are not in danger. Violence should ONLY be used to enforce the law as a last resort. In this case, the officer should have called CPS. When they arrived and the man "refuses" to hand the kid over THEN violence should have been used. But up until that point the officer should have been calm, cool, and collected. There are plenty of officers who know how to handle unreasonable citizens without instantly resorting to violence, here is one example [MEDIA=youtube]TXEfqdOF_VY[/MEDIA] in any event, those are my thoughts on this issue [/QUOTE]
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