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Well, bascially I've been depressed for as long as I can remember and I've seen plenty of counselors I'm forced to go to a christian school by my parents which has basically turned me off from christianity since they're all irritating hypocrites...but i was wondering, since it seems to work for some people...or at least they act like it does, if God can really change anything or if I'm better off just killing myself. I know that sounds like a stupid question but if I have to help myself then I know I'm not strong enough to all that cause I'm just toooo tired at this point. And I don't even know why I'm even considering asking god for help since I'm basically an atheist...but I just wondered what a TRUE christian perspective would be.

And also, if God is sooo good then why does he put some of these struggles out there in the first place, I mean, i hear its to test you and all that crap but whats the point of doing all that when he could just leave you alone and allow you to be content the way you are instead of trying to mes with you all the time.
 

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Unfortunantly you have seen the side of christianity that most people see. You have seen all of these people who say that you shouldn't swear, hate, steal, lie etc. all the while doing those same things to varing degrees. They feel no remorse for what they have done, and sometimes feel as if they aren't doing anything wrong! Let me tell you that these are NOT christians. They have not been saved, and do not have the holy spirit.

Having God in my life has changed me. I used to be your typical guy. Got drunk, watched porn, cursed and swore, laughed at my freind's dirty jokes. I don't do any of that anymore. Not because some uppity older woman looked down her nose at me and told me not to, but because I no longer feel I want or need to. I'll tell you something that might creep you out, but hang on. I used to look at porn two or three times a day, every day. I have only looked at it twice since I was saved almost a year ago, and immediantly felt ashamed, weak and foolish. I might also add that God punished me both times, and I have learned my lesson. Having God always with you will help you through anything, as long as you have faith.

As to why God lets bad things happen? Testing, yes but there are other reasons as well. If your depression leads you on a search for God(Wich it obviously has, because you posted here), and ultimatly to your salvation(I pray it will), what now seems like the most horrible thing you have ever gone through will then seem like a most wonderful blessing.

If anything I have said has gotten through to you, please ask Jesus For forgivness. Tell him you know you are a sinner, you can name some you have commited, but he already knows. Tell God you accept and receive Jesus as your personal saviour, and finally, thank him. If you pray these things and beleive them in your heart, you will be saved. If I haven't gotten through to you, please keep asking questions, and maybe you will find the answer that will open your eyes. Then you to will really know what that phrase means.
 
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hoplessss said:
Well, bascially I've been depressed for as long as I can remember and I've seen plenty of counselors I'm forced to go to a christian school by my parents which has basically turned me off from christianity since they're all irritating hypocrites...but i was wondering, since it seems to work for some people...or at least they act like it does, if God can really change anything or if I'm better off just killing myself. I know that sounds like a stupid question but if I have to help myself then I know I'm not strong enough to all that cause I'm just toooo tired at this point. And I don't even know why I'm even considering asking god for help since I'm basically an atheist...but I just wondered what a TRUE christian perspective would be.

And also, if God is sooo good then why does he put some of these struggles out there in the first place, I mean, i hear its to test you and all that crap but whats the point of doing all that when he could just leave you alone and allow you to be content the way you are instead of trying to mes with you all the time.[/QUOT Hi, thank you for sharing, is life worth living, yes, right now you might not have found a passion in life but that does not mean you won't. You don't know what the future will give you and it could be great. So don't let the present take away from the future. Your life has meaning and value, you need to not be to hard on yourself. Truly love yourself, you will never regret caring and loving yourself. You are a unique human being, never again will there be another you, don't listen to the negativity of this world. Try to find the positives in life and try not to dwell on the negatives. Please even though you don't believe in God you can still pray and talk to him, he understands you where your at. He does love you and wants you to know him, communication is good for you and you can share everything with him. You don't have absolute proof God does not exist, take a chance , it won't hurt anything, you were able to express your feelings, can't knock the thought of God for that. The world is passing, christians see God restoring the relationship between man and God through his son Jesus. The world will completely be restored at the end of time until then men and women through the gift of freewill can choose to do good or do evil and it will/does have an effect on all of us but Christians will persevere till they are safe in God's Kingdom, God bless, keep asking questions just be patient for answers on this forum.
 
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hoplessss said:
Well, bascially I've been depressed for as long as I can remember and I've seen plenty of counselors I'm forced to go to a christian school by my parents which has basically turned me off from christianity since they're all irritating hypocrites...but i was wondering, since it seems to work for some people...or at least they act like it does, if God can really change anything or if I'm better off just killing myself. I know that sounds like a stupid question but if I have to help myself then I know I'm not strong enough to all that cause I'm just toooo tired at this point. And I don't even know why I'm even considering asking god for help since I'm basically an atheist...but I just wondered what a TRUE christian perspective would be.

And also, if God is sooo good then why does he put some of these struggles out there in the first place, I mean, i hear its to test you and all that crap but whats the point of doing all that when he could just leave you alone and allow you to be content the way you are instead of trying to mes with you all the time.


Hi there,

I don't know exactly what you're going through but I can totally relate to how you're feeling. Going through high school I was severely depressed. Life was such a struggle. You try to hide the pain or escape it. But somehow it always finds its way back, stronger than ever.

I'm sorry you've had a bad experience with Christianity because some people who misuse His name. I'd encourage you to judge Jesus Christ and not those who claim to follow Him. People who follow Jesus are far from perfect. We mess up and can be hypocrites. The difference is that we are always trying to improve.

I totally understand about feeling tired. It's like you've been trying to hold of this attack all on your own. It's like you've every tactic you can think of to fight it. But no matter what you do the enemy keeps advancing. You can't do anything but lay there exhausted and wonder why you even bother.

But Jesus says that if you give your burdens over to Him that He will hold them for you. And when you find a church that truly follows Jesus you won't be alone anymore. Instead of fighting the war on your own you'll be part of an army. You take turns fighting for each other.

It will still be a fight and it won't make everything suddenly wonderful. The change will be in your heart. And as long as you keep turning to God (in prayer and reading the Bible) everyday then you will see the slow and steady change. Its hard work talking to God and reading His promises everyday. But its work that fills you up instead of tearing you down. And its work that will give you the weapons you need to fight and the armour you need to survive this battle of life.
 
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I have read a story about an athiest woman and her family who had basically lost everything. She had 5 children, her house burned down. Her husband left her...she was left with nothing but she met true christians who helped her get up, and showed her love and how much they cared about her..and wanted nothing in return. Those people brought her to God, she started praying for her husband and he came back to her. They built a new house and things got better. There are hard times in ourlife....but we can't close our eyes to the world around us. There are people less fortunate then us. Some have nothing at all and they do everything to survive, but when something wrong goes wrong in our life we wanna end it. My father was an alcoholic, and my mom married him while being a christian and a memeber of church. Divorce was out of question then, and it was unspoken of but she was willing to do it because she just couldn't take it anymore....but she missed the trian and ended up not going. Today my father is a christian, and has been a memeber of church for 8 years. God is almighty...and you won't believe it until you experience His power. One prayer could change a person's life, if you come to Him with an open heart. People without Christ kill them selves because of depression but Gods children seek Him, because they know He will help, because He is the light. Devil sees a person... he knows where we are weak. When we fall he doesn't help us get up, instead he will exhaust us mentally, physically, and emotionally....and the only way out would be death, and it is a way to solve a problem in a way...but he wins that battle because the soul he takes with burn with him in hell forever. I pray for God to bring those us who had fallen, and find those who are lost, and I believe when God sees you in need and you ask Him for help, He will never turn you down.
 
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ITBM(APPLAUSE). Very well said. WE are here to worship God, When we go threw these strugges , we are to conqure them and learn from them, it builds our character and faith, which builds our relationship with God. Deb also has a good point, nothing in Christiananity hurts anyone.....so its up to you to check it out. And please do feel free to ask questions and discuss anything on this forum......someone will end up reading what you type and will be willing to converse with you.Some are even willing to let people pm them. If your willing though.....its prbably better to go over the bible with thers in a group setting so you may get the most out of the Bible. Or get a study bible. I can give one of mine as an example...."the rainbow study bible(living bible edition)".Those kind of books help the new reaer b using a color-coding system so one may understand the different books in the bible better,ex= God/in purple,Love/in green,Salvation/ in blue,History/ in silver, and when God was directly talking to us is in another.It also has an index.
 
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blaming satan for all the bad things that happen is all fine and dandy, but I mean if God created everything then isn't he at partial if not total fault of all the bad things that happen in the world? I mean I know its sin and all that crud...but even completely innocent people he punishes until they litterally end up hitting rock bottom and he just turns his back on them, doesn't do a thing to help. That's the kind of stuff I don't get. And no offense, but it always seems like Christians make excuses for god or something. And I don't think thats right.

And also the "christians" at my school aren't even close to just being non-perfect christians. They just will literally sit there in school chapel and act like they're the greatest christian in the world when the time for looking like a good christian is a good thing, but then as soon as they get back in the halls, they're a completely different person. Before when I actually believed in god, I was almost scared to even mention his name at schoool cause I was scared they'd cast me out as uncool or soemthing. Thats how bad it is. and church isn't any better. It's especially hard to see if they ever really get the message since 75% of the teens in there have designer totes like gucci, coach, and louis vutton...which I like designer bags, but it seems a little hypocritical to me is all.

I mean, I believe there might be a supreme being that may have created the world and all that, but I dont necissarily think hes good. I think as sin grows stronger he grows weaker. And really I dont think there's true proof that he exists. I mean sure, theres the pyramids that are mentioned in the bible that are still there today in egypt....but not to be mean or anthing, but anybody could add that to their book to make the whole message of the bible true if you know what i mean.

Sorry if you feel like I'm trying to talk down Christians or something but those are just my personal opinions/questions on the whole idea.

P.S. how did god punish you cm24? I've always wondered how he punishes people for things like that. LIke does he punish you by letting you get caught so then everyone looks at you funny or does he punish you by means of something completely irrelivant? But you don't have to answer if you don't want to, I was just wondering...
 
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blaming satan for all the bad things that happen is all fine and dandy, but I mean if God created everything then isn't he at partial if not total fault of all the bad things that happen in the world? I mean I know its sin and all that crud...but even completely innocent people he punishes until they litterally end up hitting rock bottom and he just turns his back on them, doesn't do a thing to help. That's the kind of stuff I don't get. And no offense, but it always seems like Christians make excuses for god or something. And I don't think thats right.

And also the "christians" at my school aren't even close to just being non-perfect christians. They just will literally sit there in school chapel and act like they're the greatest christian in the world when the time for looking like a good christian is a good thing, but then as soon as they get back in the halls, they're a completely different person. Before when I actually believed in god, I was almost scared to even mention his name at schoool cause I was scared they'd cast me out as uncool or soemthing. Thats how bad it is. and church isn't any better. It's especially hard to see if they ever really get the message since 75% of the teens in there have designer totes like gucci, coach, and louis vutton...which I like designer bags, but it seems a little hypocritical to me is all.

I mean, I believe there might be a supreme being that may have created the world and all that, but I dont necissarily think hes good. I think as sin grows stronger he grows weaker. And really I dont think there's true proof that he exists. I mean sure, theres the pyramids that are mentioned in the bible that are still there today in egypt....but not to be mean or anthing, but anybody could add that to their book to make the whole message of the bible true if you know what i mean.

Sorry if you feel like I'm trying to talk down Christians or something but those are just my personal opinions/questions on the whole idea.

P.S. how did god punish you cm24? I've always wondered how he punishes people for things like that. LIke does he punish you by letting you get caught so then everyone looks at you funny or does he punish you by means of something completely irrelivant? But you don't have to answer if you don't want to, I was just wondering...
Everybody sees God differently, that's why we have Christians, Atheists, Buddists, Muslims,etc. Christians see God through Jesus eyes, they accept the fact of original sin and its consequences. They know the world is not always going to stay in the present conditon. They don't want to break a command and be separated from God. They accept Jesus as Lord and try to follow his teachings. Christians have a positive view about God. Christians are not going to blame God for the status of the world, they're going to try to do their best and make it a better place knowing God will have a final separation of good and evil on the last day. Christians have such great hope, we just need to persevere. Christianity is our answer on how to see the world, how to live in the world, how to survive in the world, we are a people that have a special mission in this world, to be disciples of Christ, God bless. You too can be a disciple of Christ, that is an option for you. We believe you'll find no greater calling than to be a Christian, a very fulfilling Life!
 
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hoplessss said:
Well, bascially I've been depressed for as long as I can remember and I've seen plenty of counselors I'm forced to go to a christian school by my parents which has basically turned me off from christianity since they're all irritating hypocrites...but i was wondering, since it seems to work for some people...or at least they act like it does, if God can really change anything or if I'm better off just killing myself. I know that sounds like a stupid question but if I have to help myself then I know I'm not strong enough to all that cause I'm just toooo tired at this point. And I don't even know why I'm even considering asking god for help since I'm basically an atheist...but I just wondered what a TRUE christian perspective would be.

And also, if God is sooo good then why does he put some of these struggles out there in the first place, I mean, i hear its to test you and all that crap but whats the point of doing all that when he could just leave you alone and allow you to be content the way you are instead of trying to mes with you all the time.

I once had a depression that words cannot describe and I got complete deliverence from it by faith in Jesus Christ. This depression followed me night and day and coated me almost like water. It penetrated my very being and was ruining me. I am not even sure if the Mods will allow this testimony, but I was delivered from it when I realized that the depression was coming, in reality, from a demon of depression. I am not saying that there is not such a thing as emotionally induced depression, only that solution never worked for me personally. When I ceased to view my problem as being a medical one, (which I suppose may be true in some cases,) and viewed it as a demonic problem and attacked it with that strategy I found lasting, complete deliverence. This is what worked for me. Also, victory over demonic depression cannot be done without a faith union with Christ and pleading the benefits of His blood. You have many doubts at this point...I did too, but found them all wasted energy on my part when I came to Him and discovered a whole new world of joy, beauty, peace and love within that glorious Savior.
 
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hoplessss said:
Well, bascially I've been depressed for as long as I can remember and I've seen plenty of counselors I'm forced to go to a christian school by my parents which has basically turned me off from christianity since they're all irritating hypocrites...but i was wondering, since it seems to work for some people...or at least they act like it does, if God can really change anything or if I'm better off just killing myself. I know that sounds like a stupid question but if I have to help myself then I know I'm not strong enough to all that cause I'm just toooo tired at this point. And I don't even know why I'm even considering asking god for help since I'm basically an atheist...but I just wondered what a TRUE christian perspective would be.

And also, if God is sooo good then why does he put some of these struggles out there in the first place, I mean, i hear its to test you and all that crap but whats the point of doing all that when he could just leave you alone and allow you to be content the way you are instead of trying to mes with you all the time.

People will always disappoint you, but Jesus never will. Unfortunately we take our eyes off of Jesus when we look at other Christians. Like Peter when he stepped out of the boat, we will sink if we allow ourselves to lose our focus.

You are special to God. He loves you and you must never lose sight of that.

Unfortunately other Christians are flawed just as we are. They struggle the same way you do. They can and often do give poor witness. This happens when we get disconnected with God. Because they are Christian we assume that their motives are always good. That isn't always the case.

Living with other Christians can cause us to get discouraged if we let it happen. When we live in close proximity to them we see all of their flaws.

Hypocrisy is a big problem in the church. It often has its roots in legalism and judgementalism. Jesus condemned hypocrisy and it sounds like you are too. We cannot let that drag us down, though. Instead of looking at what is bad we need to focus on the good.

I have been through the depths of depression. I hit bottom and lived to tell about it. It happened because I focused on what was wrong with my life and lost sight of how good life can be. I stopped taking responsibility for my own actions and blamed others. I was angry with God for giving me an unfair burden.

We choose to be happy or not. Sometimes in our anger and frustration it is easier to feel bad because it confirms that we are right. Bad things are happening in your life so you use this as a way of vindicating your feelings. At least you feel that you are right about this one thing. We come to believe that life sucks because we surround ourselves with bad thoughts.

I did not go to church for two years. I shut down my life and withdrew into a black hole of despair. I thought that I could never get out. I wanted to end it all, too. I've been through anti-depressants and psychotherapy. Nothing really helped until I took ownership over my feelings.

This was the first step in climbing out of a deep dark hole. My next step was to realize that I could not carry the load myself. I had to humble myself and admit that I had messed up and nobody else was to blame. I took this to the Lord and there was no turning back. I was cured in one moment. It was as if a cloud had been removed.

God has been so good to me. He was all along. I just stopped seeing it. Instead I focused on the negative.

Satan's role is to deceive us. He condemns us and tells us that we are not worthy or lovable. He gets like a wedge between us and the Lord. He adds to our burden by giving us feelings of inadequacy and failure. God's job is to carry the load. We need to let him do it.

I have an incurable illness. I have had it for 16 years. I thought that life was not worth living because I was no longer the same person that I had been. I was measuring myself by a false standard.

I learned that I was still the same person. I just could not do the same things. I was still lovable and could still love others. I allowed myself to fall prey to Satan's lies.

Don't buy into lies. I've been down that road and it isn't pretty.

God loves us and that should be enough for us. We need to believe that we are lovable and allow his love to work in us and through us.

This will not be the end of disappointment in your life. Pain and suffering are a given because we live in a fallen world of our own making. We cannot blame God for our rebellion and the results of it.

Instead we need to accept things with grace and believe that God is in control. We need to place him in the driver's seat where he belongs. Then when we encounter obstacles, we can allow him to deal with them.

I read the Book of Job to keep things in perspective. I learned from Job that my condition is not due to my sins. I am not to blame and I learned from Job that I cannot allow others to place that unfair accusation on me. I learned from Job that the rightful person to blame is Satan. I learned that I have to persevere and that God sees my pain and suffering and that I do not need to bear it alone. I learned that God is sovereign in all situations and that I should relax and let him be in control. I also learned that God keeps his promises to the faithful and that I will be rewarded in the future.

Please reach out to God and a good Christian friend. Share your pain. Lay it at God's feet. Then get on with life. It can still be good if we allow ourselves to feel joy.

Praise God and thank him always for what he has done.
 
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oh well. I give up.
Why don't you try Christianity for a year? What do you have to lose? Jesus wants to help you carry your cross, you can be strengthen with much hope in your heart. Don't let depression get the best of you, alot of people on these boards have had to dealt with that, you're going to have to see what works for you, some people feel better with medicine, some had to adjust medicine, just don't ever put death into your hands. Take the isssue of death out of your hands as an option, you'll never regret it. Don't let death be a temptation, that means your going to work through it. The devil will tempt everybody with taking things in their own hands, he is a liar, he wants everybody to be like him, without hope. He is truly without hope, he can never go to God's Kingdom. ALL God ask of you is to don't be your own God, trust him, when I was tempted , for me, I knew it would have meant hell so alot of good that would do,to go from here to hell but that knocked me out of it, I was not going to spend eternity in misery that would not compare to any problem here. I decided what would be would be but I'm not sending myself there to start my time, there is an after life, you need to live and take it one day at a time. Suicide does devastate other people, children are not here that would have been had the person live out there life, I do believe a person will see the future as it would have been, wirh children that would have been born, with the life they would have had, had they only trusted and not taken things into there own hands. For me, I could not bear the thought I would have to look at the future and see so many things that would have made me happy. Try not to get overwhelm, go to school, do your best, try to be the best person you can be, be kind to others, if you have faults and failings, forgive yourself, God forgives you for all your faults and failings, you don't have to be perfect, cut yourself some slack, you are absolutely a precious human being, everybody here sees your invaluable worth, so many people have been where you are and none of them regret having gotten through those tough times, I am absolutely positive you will say the same when you look back on your life in 10 years from now. You will be older, more mature, other people will have come into your life, it will be a different life, for me I can definitely say thank God i didn't take things into my own hands which I will never allow to be a temptation for me again, I don't touch the issue of death, when I die it will be out of my hands, you will never regret it. We're praying for you, keep talking to people, counselors, your parents, this board, whatever is bothering you, you can share, we are here for you, gives us the chance to see how we can all help each other out . God bless.
 
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Hopeless: I've always wondered how he punishes people for things like that. LIke does he punish you by letting you get caught so then everyone looks at you funny or does he punish you by means of something completely irrelivant? But you don't have to answer if you don't want to, I was just wondering...

Hopeless,

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Powers of Darkness Carry Out the Curse of the Law :o

:groupray: When you commit any act of the flesh that defrauds our neighbor, it is sin. Then the hedge comes down, and the powers of darkness move in to attack. But when you love your neighbor, you are fulfilling the law and are protected by God. “If you fulfill the royal law according o the scripture, Thou shalt love
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thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well (you are blessed and protected by the hedge of God). But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors (and the hedge of God’s protection is removed). So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy” (James 2:8, 9, 12, 13).

Since the law commands us to love :groupray: our neighbor, every act of selfishness lowers the hedge on us to the powers of darkness. The Scripture says, “Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father is merciful. :preach: Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: :pray: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again” (Luke 6:36-38).

:( If we do not seek the good of our neighbor, we will bear the wrong fruit of anger, hate and slander, which is sin. When we speak against others, the hedge is lowered; and we are cut down by the powers of darkness because God removes His protection. “And it shall come to pass in the day that the Lord shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou was made to serve; That thou shalt take up this proverb (taunt) against the king of Babylon (Satan), and say, ‘How hath the oppressor ceased! The Lord bath broken the staff of the wicked, and the scepter of the rulers. He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger... Since thou art laid down, no feller (tree cutter) is come up against us”’ (Isa. 14:3-6, 8).
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In short, of course though!
 
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Part 2:

Powers of Darkness Carry Out the Curse of the Law :o

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Satan is the king of Babylon who brings the destruction when the hedge is down. Satan and the powers of darkness are the “tree cutters.” When we overcome the flesh, we overcome the destruction of Satan. Right now the powers of darkness are at work cutting down and destroying all those whose hearts refuse to be conformed to the nature of God. Our hearts are tested today, just as the first Adam and Eve were tested.

:angel: “Now will I sing to my well beloved a song of my beloved touching His vineyard. My well beloved hath vineyard in a very fruitful hill: And he fenced it, and gathered out of it the stones thereof, and planted it with the choicest vine... And He looked that it should bring forth grapes, and it brought forth wild grapes (it produced only the fruits of the flesh)... I will tell you what I will do to my vineyard: I will take away the hedge thereof, and it shall be eaten up; and break down the wall thereof, and it shall be trodden down” (Isa. 5:1, 2, 4, 5).

:preach: God has lowered the hedge today on all those who do not bear the fruit of love toward those around them, and they are being consumed by the powers of darkness. There is no deliverance or protection for those who refuse
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to overcome the flesh and walk in covenant with the Lord Jesus Christ and be perfected in love. Our hearts will either love the nature of Satan and the flesh, or our hearts will love the nature of God. This is how we will know a tree by its fruits.

:angel: “Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit (love); but a corrupt tree
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bringeth forth evil fruit (hate). A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit (which is the God-kind of love). Every tree
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that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down (by the tree cutters, the powers of darkness
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) and cast into the fire (because they break God’s law when they do not walk in love). Wherefore, by their fruits
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ye shall know them (Matt. 7:17-20).

:groupray: If we receive the blessings of God by loving our neighbor, then we also receive judgment from God when we choose to defraud our neighbor. If we choose to judge our neighbor instead of loving him, we receive judgment. When we choose to condemn our neighbor instead of loving him, we receive condemnation. If we will not pardon, God will not pardon us. In every case, the hedge comes down and the powers of darkness become instruments of judgment and condemnation. God deals with us according to our conduct toward others, “who will render to every man according to his deeds” (Rom. 2:6). :preach: So by your standard of measure toward others, God measures in return to you. :preach: This is the law of God today.
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Deb7777 said:
Why don't you try Christianity for a year? What do you have to lose? Suicide does devastate other people, children are not here that would have been had the person live out there life, I do believe a person will see the future as it would have been, with children that would have been born, with the life they would have had, had they only trusted and not taken things into there own hands. For me, I could not bear the thought I would have to look at the future and see so many things that would have made me happy.

ahh...but id unno if I already said this on here or not but I have this feeling...like this intuition that I'm gonna die soon. I know it sounds weird but my mom told me once that some people can tell when they're about to die in a way...

and also jsisrl, I dont understand verses, sorry...so is what you're trying to say is that when you sin it brings you farther from god and closer to satan so in a way you kinda punish yourself more or soemthing...sorry I'm really slow.
 
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hoplessss said:
but i was wondering, since it seems to work for some people...or at least they act like it does, if God can really change anything or if I'm better off just killing myself.
How old are you?
You say you have been to councillors. Have you seen a psychiatrist? Some forms of depression are helped by medication.
If you are a teenager, be assured that life does get better. If you can ride out your teen years and finish school, you'll find the world is a much better place than it currently seems.
 
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hoplessss said:
and also jsisrl, I dont understand verses, sorry...so is what you're trying to say is that when you sin it brings you farther from god and closer to satan so in a way you kinda punish yourself more or soemthing...sorry I'm really slow.

hoplessss,

You can call me Connie!

Yes, God has Law's that bring on the powers of darkness that carry out the curse of the Law. We really do get what we have been doing wrong. If we do darkness or evil, evil and darkness will more so come upon us. But if you want to go to heaven, should you die soon, wouldn't you want God to receive YOU up there? A sober question I know.

Read my posts again, see if you glean any more from them.
I'll check back in soon! PEACE my friend!
 
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