denomination?

[cyberlizard]

When considering the New Testament writings and the letters of Paul (as well as Acts), my question is this...

When reading about Paul, what denomination do you feel his is nearest to? For example, orthodox, lutheran, methodist, pentecostal, baptist, evangelical.

Which do you think his teaching and practise had most in common with and why?


Steve

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Oh boy, this should be interesting as it is mostly dependent upon how you interpret his writings...

I think he would be Wesleyan (if I have to choose one)

Paul preached people received the Holy Spirit completely when they believed in Christ (Acts 19:1-7; Galatians 3:1-6; Ephesians 1:13-14)

Paul did not preach a pretrib rapture, but rather when Jesus comes back for the saints we a will be gathered together to Him then all together, not bit by bit or some before then the rest later (2 Thes 2:1-4; 1 Thes 4:15-17; 1 Cor 15; 1 Thes 5:1-9) So no timing of the rapture, rather, look for Jesus to return because when He does we will be saved.

Paul preached people were saved by God's grace alone through their faith in Him (Eph 2:4-9)

This is my understanding of some of their doctrine and why I agree that Paul would be more likely to fall into one of those groups (church of the nazarene or methodist)

 

[Optimax]

Most are not even close.

Though each thinks they are.

The reason I am Word of Faith is that after looking at some of the above mentioned.

I learned they were big on telling what we should not do.

However evidently not having a clue as to how to effectively do.

Word of Faith gives specific instructions on the how to.

 

[Andrea411]

Most are not even close.

Though each thinks they are.

The reason I am Word of Faith is that after looking at some of the above mentioned.

I learned they were big on telling what we should not do.

However evidently not having a clue as to how to effectively do.

Word of Faith gives specific instructions on the how to.

I have to agree but I don't think most people understand the grown up version of WoF. They think its all about asking for a Mercedes and not about believing the Lord will take our suffering and turn it into our greatest strengths, if we are willing, to stand in faith believing for for it.

I do know Paul was charismatic, evangelistic, holiness and trinitarian. Yet had many problems within the new churches bc the people were immature, not using their gifts correctly, jealous about the other believers gifts and selfish. hmmm sounds like most every Charismatic church I've ever belonged to... LOL.

Women weren't walking in the maturity they should. Men weren't respecting them as they were taught... 2000 years, not much change. Geez, this is discouraging. Lord help us.

God bless, andrea

 

[DannLeavitt]

I think every denomination would be quick to claim Paul. If they didn't say that Paul would fit in their denomination, then they would be heretics, because he wrote 2/3 of the New Testament.

Paul also says that he "praises God because he speaks in tongues more than.." the people he was talking to. He also references sanctification. There are parts of every denomination in Paul's teaching.

 

[lismore]

After 2,000 years of tradition and cultural baggage, which every church or denomination has picked up to a greater or lesser extent, I think none of today's churches or denominations are similar to the church in the NT times.

 

[cyberlizard]

is it time then to rewind the clock, so to speak?


Steve

 

[Frogster]

is it time then to rewind the clock, so to speak?


Steve

Do you mean rewind the clock to to when the church was in grace, that was the gospel that was in the early church?

Barnabas saw...


Acts 11:23 When he came and saw the grace of God, he was glad, and he exhorted them all to remain faithful to the Lord with steadfast purpose,

So really, if one wants to rewind, then one wants better like in Antioch, or look foward to when the mentioned denominations see that grace is forever, through the church, then, we will have true Pauline theology.


Eph 2:7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.



Glory through our denominations, that being the new cov glory of grace, so in a real sense, we don't need to rewind, but we can learn about the grace that was in the early church, still is, and will be to come in the ages ahead.

That will be good for all denominations, that is a church that Paul would be happy in, nearest to Paul, a grace church, close to Paul's theology. As per the OP.

Eph 3:21 to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, forever and ever. Amen.

 

[gideons300]

I agree that many would claim Paul was closest to their denomination. Of course after he told them that they were carnal for dividing up the body into denominations to begin with, they would probably throw him out on his ear.

If Jesus came preaching that we must lose our life to find His, that if we love the world, the love of God is not in us, that he that says he loves Him will obey his every command, what do you think each denomination would do?

There is something wrong here, and yet few will admit to it for it makes them uncomfortable. Our issues are not so much doctrinal,. but the state of our hearts. We cloth ourselves with all the verses that make us feel warm and fuzzy, but refuse to acknowledge the ones that tell us to count the cost of following all the way until the end. Preachers are in a bind, for the hard verses send tithers scattering, and that does not sit well with the board of directors. It is time we stopped being a business and stated living what we say we believe, but until we believe it is possible to walk pleasing to our God in all things, by Him living inside us causing uis to walk ion truel joy filled obedience, we will continue to have a great form of godliness, but our lives, and our testimonies will continue to tell the world "There is nothing to see here, folks. Move along."

A new day is dawning. We are awakening to the truth. Christ came to set us free indeed... from us. Do we want it?

Blessings,

Gideon

 

[RDKirk]

I have to agree but I don't think most people understand the grown up version of WoF. They think its all about asking for a Mercedes and not about believing the Lord will take our suffering and turn it into our greatest strengths, if we are willing, to stand in faith believing for for it.

I do know Paul was charismatic, evangelistic, holiness and trinitarian. Yet had many problems within the new churches bc the people were immature, not using their gifts correctly, jealous about the other believers gifts and selfish. hmmm sounds like most every Charismatic church I've ever belonged to... LOL.

Women weren't walking in the maturity they should. Men weren't respecting them as they were taught... 2000 years, not much change. Geez, this is discouraging. Lord help us.

God bless, andrea

I go along with you on this Andrea.

 

[ToBeBlessed]

Women weren't walking in the maturity they should. Men weren't respecting them as they were taught... 2000 years, not much change. Geez, this is discouraging. Lord help us.

I think that the reason that so many Christian marriages fail is that we choose the wrong person. Though we would like to think as Christians we do not put attractiveness above many other traits, we do.

The bible tells us not to be unequally yoked. When we look to be equally yoked, then God gives us other examples of what a Christian marriage should be and what qualities and morals we should look for in a spouse. The problem: As always, we do not listen to what God tells us we should be doing! We fall in love with our hearts, not our minds.

I'm sure lust plays into that when a couple is waiting until marriage. You have to be very strong these days with all the filth plastered all over our country.

 

[ToBeBlessed]

I don't think that Paul would have been in any denomination.

I think that since Paul's calling was to spread the gospel to the gentiles that he would have realized that setting denominational rules would have squelched the early church, which is why he primarily gave them one message, spread the gospel of grace.

Back then there were many false teachers and false prophets trying to get in and take over the early church. Paul had a hard enough time keeping them focused on spreading the gospel of grace and keeping them (new churches) grounded in the gospel and not swaying back towards the law.

 

[Optimax]

Paul was WOF.

Scripture proves it.

Paul said that he preaches the word of faith.

Rom 10:8
But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; KJV

 

[ToBeBlessed]

Paul was WOF.

Scripture proves it.

Paul said that he preaches the word of faith.

Rom 10:8
But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; KJV

I disagree 100% with that.

I think Paul was almost the opposite of WOF. He told people to hold each other upend edify each other and preach the gospel.

No one was talking themselves or what they desired into existence.

 

[JimB]

Why, the Apostle Paul believed just like me, of course.

 

[catholichomeschooler]

When considering the New Testament writings and the letters of Paul (as well as Acts), my question is this...

When reading about Paul, what denomination do you feel his is nearest to? For example, orthodox, lutheran, methodist, pentecostal, baptist, evangelical.

Which do you think his teaching and practise had most in common with and why?


Steve

Catholic.

He taught the authority of the Church, the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist, obedience to the Bishop, and apostolic succession.

 

[geetrue]

St Paul would be from the "Church of Sincerity" if there was one ... I choose Wesley due to the mercy they had on so many afflicted in his day.

2 Corinthians 2:17

For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

 

[ToBeBlessed]

Why, the Apostle Paul believed just like me, of course.

Then you'd be the best person to ask. What denomination would the apostle Paul be?

 

[Frogster]

Well, for one thing, we can all agree that he would not be of the Jerusalem Church, as he was not in his own day.

 

[Andrea411]

Catholic.

He taught the authority of the Church, the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist, obedience to the Bishop, and apostolic succession.

the obedience to anyone was dependent on their being men or women of good repute

In all due respect, Paul never taught apostolic succession as the Catholic church teaches it? He certainly did not teach that apostles were infallible. He said for us not to follow after this one or that one... Paul rebukes Peter and the pageantry that the RCC became is not what the NT church taught.

Even when the apostles wrote of their imminent death they did not name a successor...

Jesus never said, a priests was to crucify Him again and again in the eucharist but we were to do as Christ did in remembrance of Him.

and we are all in the priesthood in the kingdom of God

Bishops were to be married to one wife and on one was to forbid marriage and on and on we go

The Catholics have many many doctrines that are not upheld here. It would not be wise to argue them here.

Paul was not catholic I would vote non-denominational...