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"Demonized"

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A lot of people say Christians can't be possessed, and that is probably true. But based upon my own experiences, it can still be really serious, to the extent that "demonically oppressed" isn't even the right word. Instead, I propose the word "demonized", assuming people agree with me.

"Demonized" is the thing between oppression and possession.
 
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I think it can be described as an intimate acknowledgement of the darkness in our own souls, rather than an experience with an outside entity.
No, there are definitely outside entities! And they can be inside a Christian.
Christ has proven this to me many times.
 
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I use to attend Pentecostal Holiness activities all the time. It seemed as though it got harder and harder to get anything done. It was almost like warfare trying to get anykind of ministry up and running.

I was at youth camp one summer and made the comment to a brother referring to, "the devil in church people." Oh!, says he, the devil cant go against the blood of the lamb and actually made a case against me.

Years later, at camp meeting, he looks me up and apologizes for his remarks. I have often wondered what trials the poor man encountered that made him come to the conclusion that yes, the devil can work through church people.
 
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No, there are definitely outside entities! And they can be inside a Christian.
Christ has proven this to me many times.

I can back up her story with my own testimony as well.

So two different people are in agreement.
 
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“The difference between those being led by the Holy Spirit and those who are deceived by Satan is joy, gladness, and a good countenance instead of sadness, sorrow, and depression. Jesus comes with joy into the soul and lifts you higher and higher, it is the spirit who gives light. When satanic power begins to rule; then there is weariness, then people’s faces are like a tragedy, and then their eyes glare as though they have passed through a terrible trial. You are always right to test the spirits (1 John 4:1), if not you will be sure to be caught napping.” – Smith Wigglesworth
 
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Christians can be oppressed but not possessed. Bind it in through the blood of Jesus and in His name.

Well my point is that neither belief is necessarily correct. Christians can't be possessed, but they can be more than just oppressed.
 
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A lot of people say Christians can't be possessed, and that is probably true. But based upon my own experiences, it can still be really serious, to the extent that "demonically oppressed" isn't even the right word. Instead, I propose the word "demonized", assuming people agree with me.

"Demonized" is the thing between oppression and possession.
Are you the actual Tails?!? Hows Sonic? You have to be about 37 now. Good to see you!! :D

Funny jokes aside, I don't think people can be possessed still. I mean if they can its super rare I imagine. Alot of the things done back then happened then but do not now. now can the be "oppressed", I can see that easily. Though demonized means to be seen as a threat or wicked. Which wouldn't make sense since its the demons who are a threat to yourself. Maybe "Tortured Demonically" or "Demonitorture".
 
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All I know is that I'm a Christian, used to be an Atheist, and when I was delivered while being a Christian, demons came out through my mouth (vomiting) and ears (felt like spirits or smoke was coming out).
 
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Are you the actual Tails?!? Hows Sonic? You have to be about 37 now. Good to see you!! :D

Funny jokes aside, I don't think people can be possessed still. I mean if they can its super rare I imagine. Alot of the things done back then happened then but do not now. now can the be "oppressed", I can see that easily. Though demonized means to be seen as a threat or wicked. Which wouldn't make sense since its the demons who are a threat to yourself. Maybe "Tortured Demonically" or "Demonitorture".

I used to be involved in witchcraft, and I was possessed back then. The demon controlled my mind. It was horrible!
Since I was saved, because of my past I've been oppressed both from inside the body, and from the outside. Evil spirits can live in the body of a believer, if we let them in by certain types of sin.

Do not be blind to this truth!
 
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That sermon explains it all. We are sealed by the Holy Spirit.

Could you give me a summary of what the sermon is saying?

If I watched every 37 minute video people gave me to watch, I would have no time left for myself.
 
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A lot of people say Christians can't be possessed, and that is probably true. But based upon my own experiences, it can still be really serious, to the extent that "demonically oppressed" isn't even the right word. Instead, I propose the word "demonized", assuming people agree with me.

"Demonized" is the thing between oppression and possession.

Question: "Can a Christian be demon possessed? Can a Christian be demonized?"

Answer:
While the Bible does not explicitly state whether a Christian can be possessed by a demon, related biblical truths make it abundantly clear that Christians cannot be demon possessed. There is a distinct difference between being possessed by a demon and being oppressed or influenced by a demon. Demon possession involves a demon having direct/complete control over the thoughts and/or actions of a person (Matthew 17:14-18; Luke 4:33-35; 8:27-33). Demon oppression or influence involves a demon or demons attacking a person spiritually and/or encouraging him/her into sinful behavior. Notice that in all the New Testament passages dealing with spiritual warfare, there are no instructions to cast a demon out of a believer (Ephesians 6:10-18). Believers are told to resist the devil (James 4:7; 1 Peter 5:8-9), not to cast him out.

Christians are indwelt by the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:9-11; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 6:19). Surely the Holy Spirit would not allow a demon to possess the same person He is indwelling. It is unthinkable that God would allow one of His children, whom He purchased with the blood of Christ (1 Peter 1:18-19) and made into a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17), to be possessed and controlled by a demon. Yes, as believers, we wage war with Satan and his demons, but not from within ourselves. The apostle John declares, “You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the One who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world” (1 John 4:4). Who is the One in us? The Holy Spirit. Who is the one in the world? Satan and his demons. Therefore, the believer has overcome the world of demons, and the case for demon possession of a believer cannot be made scripturally.

With the strong biblical evidence that a Christian cannot be demon possessed in view, some Bible teachers use the term “demonization” to refer to a demon having control over a Christian. Some argue that while a Christian cannot be demon possessed, a Christian can be demonized. Typically, the description of demonization is virtually identical to the description of demon possession. So, the same issue results. Changing the terminology does not change the fact that a demon cannot inhabit or take full control of a Christian. Demonic influence and oppression are realities for Christians, no doubt, but it is simply not biblical to say that a Christian can be possessed by a demon or demonized.

Much of the reasoning behind the demonization concept is the personal experience of seeing someone who was “definitely” a Christian exhibiting evidence of being controlled by a demon. It is crucially important, though, that we do not allow personal experience to influence our interpretation of Scripture. Rather, we must filter our personal experiences through the truth of Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Seeing someone whom we thought to be a Christian exhibiting the behavior of being demonized should cause us to question the genuineness of his/her faith. It should not cause us alter our viewpoint on whether a Christian can be demon possessed / demonized. Perhaps the person truly is a Christian but is severely demon oppressed and/or suffering from severe psychological problems. But again, our experiences must meet the test of Scripture, not the other way around.

www.gotquestions.org/Christian-demon-possessed.html
 
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Question: "Can a Christian be demon possessed? Can a Christian be demonized?"

Answer:
While the Bible does not explicitly state whether a Christian can be possessed by a demon, related biblical truths make it abundantly clear that Christians cannot be demon possessed. There is a distinct difference between being possessed by a demon and being oppressed or influenced by a demon. Demon possession involves a demon having direct/complete control over the thoughts and/or actions of a person (Matthew 17:14-18; Luke 4:33-35; 8:27-33). Demon oppression or influence involves a demon or demons attacking a person spiritually and/or encouraging him/her into sinful behavior. Notice that in all the New Testament passages dealing with spiritual warfare, there are no instructions to cast a demon out of a believer (Ephesians 6:10-18). Believers are told to resist the devil (James 4:7; 1 Peter 5:8-9), not to cast him out.

Christians are indwelt by the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:9-11; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 6:19). Surely the Holy Spirit would not allow a demon to possess the same person He is indwelling. It is unthinkable that God would allow one of His children, whom He purchased with the blood of Christ (1 Peter 1:18-19) and made into a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17), to be possessed and controlled by a demon. Yes, as believers, we wage war with Satan and his demons, but not from within ourselves. The apostle John declares, “You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the One who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world” (1 John 4:4). Who is the One in us? The Holy Spirit. Who is the one in the world? Satan and his demons. Therefore, the believer has overcome the world of demons, and the case for demon possession of a believer cannot be made scripturally.

With the strong biblical evidence that a Christian cannot be demon possessed in view, some Bible teachers use the term “demonization” to refer to a demon having control over a Christian. Some argue that while a Christian cannot be demon possessed, a Christian can be demonized. Typically, the description of demonization is virtually identical to the description of demon possession. So, the same issue results. Changing the terminology does not change the fact that a demon cannot inhabit or take full control of a Christian. Demonic influence and oppression are realities for Christians, no doubt, but it is simply not biblical to say that a Christian can be possessed by a demon or demonized.

Much of the reasoning behind the demonization concept is the personal experience of seeing someone who was “definitely” a Christian exhibiting evidence of being controlled by a demon. It is crucially important, though, that we do not allow personal experience to influence our interpretation of Scripture. Rather, we must filter our personal experiences through the truth of Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Seeing someone whom we thought to be a Christian exhibiting the behavior of being demonized should cause us to question the genuineness of his/her faith. It should not cause us alter our viewpoint on whether a Christian can be demon possessed / demonized. Perhaps the person truly is a Christian but is severely demon oppressed and/or suffering from severe psychological problems. But again, our experiences must meet the test of Scripture, not the other way around.

www.gotquestions.org/Christian-demon-possessed.html

This post is elaborately written, but incorrect, in my opinion.

Basically, I was demonized, I had demons in my body, and I was a Christian. I have witness accounts of all this, including my mom I think. And if you're going to go so far as to question my faith, you might as well just start questioning everyone's faith.
 
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If anyone wants to be smart and question me, I'll call @Emli @I'm_Sorry @Solomons Porch as witnesses to the stand. They have all seen my struggles, and how well I am doing now.
They don't know you personally. Only your online persona.....which can be anything you want it to be.
 
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They don't know you personally. Only your online persona.....which can be anything you want it to be.

Would it change your opinion if I told you one of them performed the deliverance?
 
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