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I'm going to speak about deliverances without providing any instructions on how to do one, rules permit, and it's going to run the potential to annoy some people...

After my first deliverance done on me, I became a bit overeager with a hatred of evil. It caused me to want to become a deliverance minister.

By my second deliverance done on me, I started to realize that doing ANY deliverance can make a person weak for two days. At least me. And I truly don't think that one deliverance on me could expel all my problems. If I could get rid of every "problem" I had through deliverance, it would probably kill me.

So yes, I'm openminded to the idea that "demons" exist and all that, and I also don't consider myself a saint. I just hope that when I die of old age, God will look at all the cards dealt to me. Every day I live in (at least minor) agony in my spirit from various things.

Unfortunately, even if I did decide to go through with the process, for my own personal reasons I no longer talk to the person who did deliverances on me. So I'm on my own in that regard.

People will say "it's your schizophrenia acting up", but either way, at least I am listening to my Christian doctor and am on the full dosage of medicine. Doesn't mean I don't have spiritual problems.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't really expect my walk to improve too much from how it is now, so I pray that God acts accordingly.
 

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I'm going to speak about deliverances without providing any instructions on how to do one, rules permit, and it's going to run the potential to annoy some people...

After my first deliverance done on me, I became a bit overeager with a hatred of evil. It caused me to want to become a deliverance minister.

By my second deliverance done on me, I started to realize that doing ANY deliverance can make a person weak for two days. At least me. And I truly don't think that one deliverance on me could expel all my problems. If I could get rid of every "problem" I had through deliverance, it would probably kill me.

So yes, I'm openminded to the idea that "demons" exist and all that, and I also don't consider myself a saint. I just hope that when I die of old age, God will look at all the cards dealt to me. Every day I live in (at least minor) agony in my spirit from various things.

Unfortunately, even if I did decide to go through with the process, for my own personal reasons I no longer talk to the person who did deliverances on me. So I'm on my own in that regard.

People will say "it's your schizophrenia acting up", but either way, at least I am listening to my Christian doctor and am on the full dosage of medicine. Doesn't mean I don't have spiritual problems.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't really expect my walk to improve too much from how it is now, so I pray that God acts accordingly.
The thing about demonic influence in a person's life is that a demon is invited in through garbage in the person's life. What makes it difficult for a person to get free from demon influence is the garbage in the person's life that the demon is feeding on. It is like having an infestation of rats in your house. If you try and get rid of the rats without removing the garbage, the rats will come right back in and continue feeding. So the best way of getting rid of the rats is to get rid of the garbage, then get rid of the rats and they will not return.

It is the same with demons. If someone casts a demon out of you but does not remove the garbage from your life, the demon will come right back in again. The fact that you have had to endure more than one deliverance and still feel some type of demonic influence in your life suggests to me that there is garbage that needs to be removed from your life.

What you need to do is to get before God and ask Him to show you what garbage there is that needs to be removed. This is the type of garbage that can be in a person's life:
Memories of abuse and neglect as a child
Historic sexual abuse
Loss of parents or loved ones
Traumatic life events
Experiences of being bullied
Involvement in the occult - seances, having your palm read, tarot cards, ouija board.
Having spells put on you.
Unconfessed sin
Curses put on you - including negative criticisms against you.
False personal prophecies (which are divination attacks)

You need to go through everything that may be part of your life experience, renouncing them and taking your freedom from them in Christ. Here is a prayer: "I confess to you that I suffered [this life experience, involvement in the occult, had this happen to me, etc] and I ask for your forgiveness for harbouring this in my life. I now renounce the effects of this and I receive freedom in Christ from the effects of it."

Once you have gone through this process for all the things you can think of, you may sense a total release from demonic influence as the demon leaves of its own accord. If not, then you can pray this prayer: "Now that all the garbage that you have been feeding on in my life has been removed, there is nothing more keeping you here to influence or oppress me any more. I therefore use my authority in Christ and cast you out of my life and forbid you to enter into anyone connected with me. The Word says that if I resist you, then you have to flee from me, so away you go!"

You don't have to yell or shout at the demon. If you have to raise your voice it means that your authority base is weak in your own eyes. True authority speaks with a quiet but insistent voice. The demon knows it has to go and often it will say, "There is nothing here left for me, so I have to go."

The reason why there is so much struggle with many attempts at casting out demons is that people try to cast out demons without going through the progress to remove the garbage that invited it in there, so it thinks it still has a right to influence and oppress. This is why the garbage has to be removed first. Then the actual deliverance is easy and straightforward. And the demon does not come back unless more garbage enters your life to invite another one in. That's what Jesus said, that after a demon has been cast out the house can be swept and clean but if the vacancy is not filled by good stuff, like the Spirit of Christ and the fruit of Spirit, the demon can come back in and bring seven others worse that it.

So, a lot of the theatrics connected with deliverance comes about because ministers don't fully know their authority in Christ, and are not aware of having to remove the garbage first. This is why they yell, shout and struggle with casting demons out of people.
 
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