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Annoula said:
i would like to ask what is the definition of evil in everyone's religion, faith, philosophy.

Hi, Annoula!

I'm a Baha'i, and am happy to provide the Baha'i understanding of this!

What follows is from the Baha'i scriptures.

Best,

Bruce
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Chapter 74: THE NONEXISTENCE OF EVIL


The true explanation of this subject is very difficult. Know that beings are of two kinds: material and spiritual, those perceptible to the senses and those intellectual.

Things which are sensible are those which are perceived by the five exterior senses; thus those outward existences which the eyes see are called sensible. Intellectual things are those which have no outward existence but are conceptions of the mind. For example, mind itself is an intellectual thing which has no outward existence. All man’s characteristics and qualities form an intellectual existence and are not sensible.

Briefly, the intellectual realities, such as all the qualities and admirable perfections of man, are purely good, and exist. Evil is simply their nonexistence. So ignorance is the want of knowledge; error is the want of guidance; forgetfulness is the want of memory; stupidity is the want of good sense. All these things have no real existence.

In the same way, the sensible realities are absolutely good, and evil is due to their nonexistence—that is to say, blindness is the want of sight, deafness is the want of hearing, poverty is the want of wealth, illness is the want of health, death is the want of life, and weakness is the want of strength.

Nevertheless a doubt occurs to the mind—that is, scorpions and serpents are poisonous. Are they good or evil, for they are existing beings? Yes, a scorpion is evil in relation to man; a serpent is evil in relation to man; but in relation to themselves they are not evil, for their poison is 264 their weapon, and by their sting they defend themselves. But as the elements of their poison do not agree with our elements—that is to say, as there is antagonism between these different elements, therefore, this antagonism is evil; but in reality as regards themselves they are good.

The epitome of this discourse is that it is possible that one thing in relation to another may be evil, and at the same time within the limits of its proper being it may not be evil. Then it is proved that there is no evil in existence; all that God created He created good. This evil is nothingness; so death is the absence of life. When man no longer receives life, he dies. Darkness is the absence of light: when there is no light, there is darkness. Light is an existing thing, but darkness is nonexistent. Wealth is an existing thing, but poverty is nonexisting.

Then it is evident that all evils return to nonexistence. Good exists; evil is nonexistent.




Some Answered Questions, pp. 262-263.

 
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Unitarian Universalists have no quick doctrine-based answers to explain evil, pain and suffering, and the fact that life can be hellish at times. For all our optimism, most of us acknowledge there is a broken, fragmented or fallen side to humanity, and in each of our lives. While we admit the existence of this negative side of life, we try not to give in to it.

You will find many UUs involved in efforts to make this a more just, peaceful, sane and livable world at local, national and global levels. We strive to act and think in ways that will allow all humans to reach their potential.

And even if we cannot explain why people suffer, we can try to help them when they do.

Shalom.
 
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BruceDLimber said:
Hi, Annoula!

I'm a Baha'i, and am happy to provide the Baha'i understanding of this!

What follows is from the Baha'i scriptures.

Best,

Bruce
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that was very interesting. thank you.

so if i understand correctly evil is the non existance of a good quality.

there is no some kind of universal evil, like the devil for example.

but how does your faith view for example the killing of people.
if i kill a person (innocent or not), what will your faith say?

i am giving this example cause i think it's really bad.
 
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I would say that;
evil is a lack of empathy
 
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Annoula said:
so evil is for UU a negative side of life?

trying to understand...
Well, we have no devil or satan or demons to blame evil on. Evil acts come from humans and we recognize that all are capable of evil - just as we are all capable of great goodness.
 
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There is no solid and definitive version of Evil, in Buddhism.
Everything is subject to perceptions and conditioning....
To suffering due to Desire and unwholesome attachment, or clinging....
Nothing or nobody can be described as pure Evil, because nothing is...
it is only our perception that makes it so....
 
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Annoula said:
i would like to ask what is the definition of evil in everyone's religion, faith, philosophy.

My Asatru faith doesn't exactly provide a definition of evil per se, though one could (probably) roughly equate evil with "chaotic", counteracting the High Gods' work to create and keep order in the universe.

My personal, and not too religious, definition of "evil" is roughly "whatever causes suffering without a very good reason".
 
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No Tocis, my friend, you'd have to be more specific than that....


How about the dog that bites you? Does he have a reason?
If none is apparent, does that therefore make him evil?

Everything has motive. But that doesn't make it evil, it just makes it pre-meditated...
There will always be 'labels' to evaluate and discriminate...
remove the label, and you're obeserving non-descript phenomena.... but one cannot judge or determine what something is, without first knowing all sides of the situation....
 
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The definition is pretty much the same for Objectivism and the Fellowship of Reason's Eudaimonism.

An organism's life is its standard of value: that which furthers its life is the good, that which threatens it is the evil.
-- Ayn Rand

More specifically, for we human beings:

That which is proper to the life of a rational being is the good; and that which negates, opposes or destroys it is the evil.
-- Ayn Rand

The "evil" is what acts against this:

Man—every man—is an end in himself, not a means to the ends of others; he must live for his own sake, neither sacrificing himself to others nor sacrificing others to himself; he must work for his rational self-interest, with the achievement of his own happiness as the highest moral purpose of his life.
-- Ayn Rand
 
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faith guardian said:
I would say that;
evil is a lack of empathy
That probably has to be the best and most concise definition of evil I've ever heard. It also seems to agree with the Baha'i explanation, and so far I can't quite think of any situation where it wouldn't apply.
 
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Been here?
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05649a.htm
tulc(got to go do some driving, be back later!)
 
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Evil is any act done by a mentally sane human being that is devoid of love, kindness and compassion.
 
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AlexandraB said:
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that

"Evil is a willful lack of empathy?"

One can lack Empathy without being Evil....
Actually yeah, I was thinking sort of along the same lines, something like an intentional lack of empathy. It had only just occured to me after my last post.
 
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raffster said:
Evil is any act done by a mentally sane human being that is devoid of love, kindness and compassion.

Yes, but we must be Mindful about defining an action as evil, as opposed to labelling the perpetrator as evil.
Not saying or suggesting we've done that, but the intital question was how our different belief systems define evil...

Ok, back to my chocolate bar... it's wicked!!
 
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Hmm. Good question.

Very, very loosely, I regard "evil" as action (or lack of action) which does harm; and "good" as that which heals.

To my mind there's a lot of grey area about it. Cancer treatments, for instance, harm in order to heal; are they good or evil? Likewise, killing a person harms by ending their life, yet may sometimes be unavoidable, arguably even necessary, under certain circumstances (e.g., if I must save my own life by taking another's, is that good or evil?).

I don't look at evil or badness or whatever as being ultimately derived from or caused by a sinister supernatural being. I think that shifts too much responsibility away from humanity, which is quite capable of horrendous evil without having to blame some external force for it. On the flip side, I don't know that it's necessary to credit an ominipotent, all-good being for anything positive that humans might achieve - I think we're capable of both great good and great evil, as well as great mediocrity.

That explanation's probably clear as mud, huh.
 
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