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Why can't he use the generalized n-body problem?
What if we run the numbers and figure out the topography of the island and locate distinctive landmarks on the island and discover that 500 feet are hidden, or 1,500 feet are hidden rather than the calculated 1,000?
Well, I can see you guys giving me 4 colours of grief over the vagaries of exactly how much of the island is or is not obscured, and by what etc etc.
That's why I presented a simpler example in #763, an 18 mile across lake point to point.
By noting mathematical relations in the results of the sky-staring, and developing a theoretical model that explains them.
Kepler stared at the sky a lot and using little more than complicated geometry and trigonometry discovered his laws of planetary motion. The orbits are ellipses. The orbits sweep out equal areas in equal times. The period of the orbit is related to the size of the ellipse. These are observational regularities. Why do these regularities exist? Kepler didn't know. But it was a work of genius to even discover them through careful observation.
The genius of Newton was to see that a theory of gravity with an inverse square law explains all three of Kepler's Laws.
You don't actually know what you're talking about here. The fact that the name of the situation has 'problem' in it does not mean that the theory 'has a problem'. We can write the equations of motion for the general two body problem in a closed form. We can't for the general three body problem. (Or n body problem). This has nothing to do with whether the theory is valid.
I can demonstrate that the world is an oblate spheroid. You just keep asserting unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
It is experimentally demonstrated to be true every time we do an experiment. It is predictive and falsifiable. That is science. All you have to do is demonstrate that gravity as we understand it is not true, falsify it. Can you do that?
They would know if their calculations are true or not.
Yes, we are aware that you posted that video in an attempt to avoid answering the problems facing flat-earthers from the previous video.
I answered by saying 1000ft should be hidden and it wasn't. But for a 'cleaner' example, I posted that, then you retorted with same flaming remark about handwaving, as I recall.
That is the distinction as I was taught it - do you have a different view?
Einstein's absolute standard was explicit, the speed of light.
That isn't an answer for why there is ANY significant amount of missing land on a flat earth model. Your "answer" IS nothing more than a hand wave of the question which was asked of you. It's like if you claimed that bigfoot attacked you, and I showed you a DNA sample of the fur left behind indicated that it was just a bear, and you retorted with, "how do you explain these scratches I have on my body?"
You may the right to arm bears over there, but the truth is, just as per your remark regarding the boat, we don't know how much if any of the island is obscured. So rather than wasting our time on a speculative endeavour, I gave a more straightforward example.
So....can you please, now, explain why the bottom hundreds of feet are hidden?
Probably swell. Cause when you have the sea bed moving at around 900 mph underneath that body of water, it's bound to create some turbulence. (I'm presuming the water's somehow entrained to earth's motion in your model?) Why not try it experimentally with a scale model. Or just consider it. Tidal waves, that's what it must be, caused by the massive shear force exerted by motion of the sea bed due to earth rotation.
It's good to know that Catalina cliffs are max around 700ft, they should be totally obscured in the JTolan vid I posted.
So what about the point to point 18 mile mirror flash? There's scores of similar vids to this. This has been done to death, and producing the odd anomaly that you can squeeze into a ball model is really too little too late.
Water is held in place by gravity and is moving along with the rest of the surface of the Earth.
If you have ever been inside an plane objects inside function just like when you are stationary.
It does if it's moving at the same speed. Force comes from acceleration, not velocity.Water is a fluid medium. Gravity may keep it down, but doesn't hold it to earth spinning underneath it.
The atmosphere and it isn't spinning against a static medium. There's just vacuum above the Earth, so no real friction.How is the spinning orbiting earth like a plane? How is it enclosed?
It does if it's moving at the same speed. Force comes from acceleration, not velocity.
The atmosphere and it isn't spinning against a static medium. There's just vacuum above the Earth, so no real friction.
That doesn't make sense.And in the helio model the earth is constantly accelerating and decelerating as it rotates away and towards the direction of orbital travel.
It may not be an absolute vacuum, but it is close enough.The atmosphere is not a solid barrier and free space has impedance/ resistance, and apparently cis-lunar space is not a perfect vacuum. so it should get blown away. Plus why doesn't the atmosphere not get sucked into the massive low-pressure vacuum to make equilibrium by the 2nd law of thermodynamics? Let me guess - coz gravity?
Probably swell. Cause when you have the sea bed moving at around 900 mph underneath that body of water.... it's bound to create some turbulence. (I'm presuming the water's somehow entrained to earth's motion in your model?)
No no no. We're asking about the explanation in your model. Our model works fine. The earth is curved, so you can't see the bottom of the island. You claim the earth is flat. Why is a significant portion of Catalina Island obscured in the video you yourself promoted as evidence in favor of your model?
I don't believe it is. All that's been claimed is that we can't see the township. As I said, the entirety of those facing parts of the island should be obscured on ball math predictions.
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