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wow....free, I know it's difficult for you to carry on a coherant and rational discussion most of the time, in that you attempts at sarcasim get in the way.
Do you have anything useful to add to the discussion?
When Jesus declared all foods clean (as some think He did) was he including humans? If not, why not?
Yes, I understand it quite well.
Was Jesus saying we could eat other people here? If not, why not?
Was Jesus saying that ingesting human flesh was ok? If not, why not?
free, I know it's difficult for you to carry on a coherant and rational discussion most of the time, in that you attempts at sarcasim get in the way.
Do you have anything useful to add to the discussion?
When Jesus declared all foods clean (as some think He did) was he including humans? If not, why not?
Oh you got jokes!
Just another Adventist who can't prove EGW from the bible, nor prove that Christians are to keep the law as Israel. Jesus came and chamged how believers relate to law.
AT
A. I am not sure the text is best rendered as He thus made all foods clean.
But if that is not the meaning does it really seem more likely that Jesus was saying all your food is purified by being excrement?
Which would be wholly scientifically wrong but would have practically no spiritual application.
A. I am not sure the text is best rendered as He thus made all foods clean.
B. If it were however you still have the question that some Adventists ask of "what is meant by food." That seems to be RND's question.
C. You also have the issue here not being food as such but the uncleaness of not washing.
D. However, the question is not so much what constitutes food, but what was previously prohibited that would now be clean if that is how the passage was rendered?
If He is making something clean then it has to mean that some things that were not clean now are. That of course hinges on A. But it tends to rule out the idea that "unclean meats are not food"argument. Because whatever was unclean before was also not food.
Sure I do! Just not your interpretation! I like a little common sense and sanity to go along with my scripture reading.
Yes!!!!!I suppose it would depend on how one choose to look at things:
Mat 15:17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
Mat 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
Mat 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Mat 15:20 These are [the things] which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.
As I noted in my article. washing hands was never a part of the levitical code of behavior.
However for health reasons it would have probably have prevented more sickness then most anything else one could do.
Of course soap and running water were likely not plentiful though I would guess soap and even a common barrel of water would have been better then no washing.
It is interesting that for health benefits it appears the Jewish tradition was more useful then the Mosaic laws.
In other words...you don't believe the scriptures.
and btw...I only asked what you thought of the passage. I never gave an interpretation before that.
I believe them, just not your interpretation of them
Good Lord man I've seen enough of your posts to know your interpretation without having had heard it from your personally!
You've placed your views out there for all to see. I just disagree with them.
But if that is not the meaning does it really seem more likely that Jesus was saying all your food is purified by being excrement?
Which would be wholly scientifically wrong but would have practically no spiritual application.
For more see my article Clean and Unclean meat I posted it here also but it is so hard to find old posts here.
Sticks and stones......
I am just not sure that this text is the easiest to prove it from given the nature of the phrase.
Just curious, Tall73, and I am not baiting. From your present position if you were to eat pork do you believe as EGW said in the OP that that would cause cancer, or leprosy or TB in you?The point would not be that the excrement is clean but that what enters the body is not a lasting means of defilement. It goes through the system and is cleaned out by elimination methods. But what comes from within is that which defiles, the evil in one's heart.
In any case I have not for some years though the unclean foods rules for were health. They were not even eating meat when they were instituted. I am just not sure that this text is the easiest to prove it from given the nature of the phrase.
I don't eat any meat for health reasons.
Just curious, Tall73, and I am not baiting. From your present position if you were to eat pork do you believe as EGW said in the OP that that would cause cancer, or leprosy or TB in you?
Yeah, I know that eating pork is fatal to pigs, but that is another issue! .
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