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Death Penalty - Non-Religious Arguments
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<blockquote data-quote="zippy2006" data-source="post: 76465978" data-attributes="member: 342410"><p>You asked for bedrock moral principles, so I gave you some.</p><p></p><p>If you don't think the governance and laws need to be moral or virtuous, presumably you would at least have them conduce to the welfare of society. That's not contingent on any particular state of societal affairs.</p><p></p><p>From that principle we can draw others, such as the idea that a society has the power to protect itself from harm (this is a principle of self-defense). At this point we already have a <em>prima facie</em> case for lethal force used for self defense, which is precisely the basis for capital punishment. Now someone may claim that in such-and-such a circumstance this form of defense will cause more harm to the society than other, alternative forms of defense would cause. Surely in that circumstance we ought to prefer the alternative form of defense, but this consideration in itself does not allow us to draw the conclusion that the first form of defense was (or is) impermissible. It remains permissible but becomes inexpedient. ...And so on and so forth.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zippy2006, post: 76465978, member: 342410"] You asked for bedrock moral principles, so I gave you some. If you don't think the governance and laws need to be moral or virtuous, presumably you would at least have them conduce to the welfare of society. That's not contingent on any particular state of societal affairs. From that principle we can draw others, such as the idea that a society has the power to protect itself from harm (this is a principle of self-defense). At this point we already have a [I]prima facie[/I] case for lethal force used for self defense, which is precisely the basis for capital punishment. Now someone may claim that in such-and-such a circumstance this form of defense will cause more harm to the society than other, alternative forms of defense would cause. Surely in that circumstance we ought to prefer the alternative form of defense, but this consideration in itself does not allow us to draw the conclusion that the first form of defense was (or is) impermissible. It remains permissible but becomes inexpedient. ...And so on and so forth. [/QUOTE]
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