Deadpool Reflections

[Kuriositina]

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WARNING: SPOILERS! There was one moment in the movie that made me think: This scientist was putting deadpool's body under an enormous amount of stress in order to make him mutate into a super hero. I remembered that in order for any creature to evolve spiritually or physically they have to be put under a lot of stress. It's just a fact of life.

What really disturbed me was the scientists reaction to deadpool's pain. Like he really could just care less.

I wonder if that's how God is when we go through pain. I know he has a higher view so that our pain and suffering must seem somehow fleeting and tiny. I think I waiver between believing that God is an unfeeling entity who could wipe out an entire race in a flood without feeling much about it and believing in a God that loved humanity so much that he offered up his beloved son as a sacrifice
so that we could be with him in heaven. Which is he? A combination of both? Is it possible? Humans and nature both have destructive and merciful sides so why not God? Why is it so hard for me to see
him as both? Maybe because I've always seen destruction as evil instead of just a fact of existence.

But really God what to do you think of humanity when you look at us? How do you feel about us over all?

 

[quatona]

I think reality requires us to be a little playful, at times.

 

[Soyeong]

Please use spoiler tags.

 

[Kuriositina]

I think reality requires us to be a little playful, at times.

I think I was a little more playful as a seeker than as a believer. Others Christians have hammered the idea that God wants obedience, rewards obedience, etc...

And when I read the bible it would seem so...I don't know what to think. The God I feel around me is very playful. The God I hear about from others and read about is quite the opposite at times. I'm a bit confused at the moment but..I like the reminder. I lost my playfulness a while ago dealing with a bunch of tragedies. I would like to get it back. I don't want to feel so broken and reflect that brokenness on everything including God.

 

[Kuriositina]

Please use spoiler tags.

Apologies if I ruined anything for you. I don't know how to edit my post to include spoiler tags so I just posted a warning before my wall of text.

 

[Soyeong]

Apologies if I ruined anything for you. I don't know how to edit my post to include spoiler tags so I just posted a warning before my wall of text.

When you click on reply, it puts what I said in quote tags, so it puts [ quote] at the front and [ /quote] at the end, but without the space. Spoiler tags work the same way except with putting [ spoiler] instead of [ quote].

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Like this.

 

[Kuriositina]

When you click on reply, it puts what I said in quote tags, so it puts [ quote] at the front and [ /quote] at the end, but without the space. Spoiler tags work the same way except with putting [ spoiler] instead of [ quote].

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Like this.

figured it out! Thanks!

 

[SkyWriting]

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WARNING: SPOILERS! There was one moment in the movie that made me think: This scientist was putting deadpool's body under an enormous amount of stress in order to make him mutate into a super hero. I remembered that in order for any creature to evolve spiritually or physically they have to be put under a lot of stress. It's just a fact of life.What really disturbed me was the scientists reaction to deadpool's pain. Like he really could just care less.

I wonder if that's how God is when we go through pain. I know he has a higher view so that our pain and suffering must seem somehow fleeting and tiny. I think I waiver between believing that God is an unfeeling entity who could wipe out an entire race in a flood without feeling much about it and believing in a God that loved humanity so much that he offered up his beloved son as a sacrifice so that we could be with him in heaven. Which is he? A combination of both? Is it possible? Humans and nature both have destructive and merciful sides so why not God? Why is it so hard for me to see him as both? Maybe because I've always seen destruction as evil instead of just a fact of existence. But really God what to do you think of humanity when you look at us? How do you feel about us over all?

When you see your child as a baby crawling on hands and knees across
the rocky yard, nearing the highway, and across the street is a scrap metal
junk yard that has attracted the babies attention.

That's a bit how God sees us. He knows that some of us will turn back to Him
and try to come back in the house. We just have to turn the right direction
back toward the door.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

I dont know how God feels. But I know how "percieving god with the heart" feels. I dont know the ocean, but can dip into a shore.

Theres a common analogy in Sikhism:

"If God is like an ocean, then our soul is like a drop of water taken from the ocean. The drop of water can become one with the ocean but can never be label as the ocean itself." (qouted from here)

I dont believe in "becoming one with God", but there are experiences people have.

For me "God awareness" stems from brain wiring, in the preferontal cortex and temporal lobes probably. And vice versa also. Brain wiring stems from faith in God...

Scientists have shown that meditaiton alters brain structure over time.

I think also that "god consciousness" (or perception of God in the heart) is formed. The Catholocs call it a "formed consceience" whe we are aware of Church doctrine.

For example from the catechism:

"Conscience must be informed and moral judgment enlightened. A well-formed conscience is upright and truthful. It formulates its judgments according to reason, in conformity with the true good willed by the wisdom of the Creator. The education of conscience is indispensable for human beings who are subjected to negative influences and tempted by sin to prefer their own judgment and to reject authoritative teachings. " From CCC

 

[Ana the Ist]

I dont know how God feels. But I know how "percieving god with the heart" feels. I dont know the ocean, but can dip into a shore.

Theres a common analogy in Sikhism:

"If God is like an ocean, then our soul is like a drop of water taken from the ocean. The drop of water can become one with the ocean but can never be label as the ocean itself." (qouted from here)

I dont believe in "becoming one with God", but there are experiences people have.

For me "God awareness" stems from brain wiring, in the preferontal cortex and temporal lobes probably. And vice versa also. Brain wiring stems from faith in God...

Scientists have shown that meditaiton alters brain structure over time.

I think also that "god consciousness" (or perception of God in the heart) is formed. The Catholocs call it a "formed consceience" whe we are aware of Church doctrine.

For example from the catechism:


"Conscience must be informed and moral judgment enlightened. A well-formed conscience is upright and truthful. It formulates its judgments according to reason, in conformity with the true good willed by the wisdom of the Creator. The education of conscience is indispensable for human beings who are subjected to negative influences and tempted by sin to prefer their own judgment and to reject authoritative teachings. " From CCC

You realize that scientists have shown that any regular pattern that your brain engages in alters brain structure over time...right?

It's not something that's unique to meditation.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

I never realised - so thanks - that but I could have geussed.

 

[The Cadet]

To hook on to your analogy,

Spoiler: Deadpool Spoilers

I feel the need to point out that there's never any particular doubt that Francis is the bad guy. Even then, there's little denying that he has to do this in order to achieve the results he wants - it took extreme torture to get Wade to the place he wanted him. Imagine if he could have just snapped his fingers and made the mutant gene sprout - how much more of a monster would the torture have made him?

 

[Noxot]

the brain has different parts and the growth of one part of the brain is different from the grow of other parts because they are different parts. thus it seems logical to understand that meditation would do something different than say learning how to golf, though the brain is a complex thing and might utilize multiple sub-personalities for this or that task. many parts one whole.

i don't find it good to worship or love a God that does both good and evil. I think that creation is only pain if something goes wrong with it and this reality seems wrong to me. i.e: mortality. creatures eating each other. things dying from wearing out and getting old. lack of space for all things to flourish. 90% mindless destruction of the old forest growth of the redwood forest due to human desire. it sounds like an inferior reality but also one that can serve a purpose that a 'better' kind could not.

the death and resurrection of reality is a game of love that got really intense. one of the rules is that if we would use what we have we could greatly reduce the negative aspects of reality but if we used what we had in a way not in accord with the kinds of directives we find best in our primal reality then things are further away from the true reality that was first of all which then leads to evil, aka the disintegration of being. things got pretty messed up so Jesus came and showed us what was going on and taught us some useful things for our betterment. some of us learned and the world altered in ways it would not have if he did not do something. both good and evil spawned from it due to humans having freedom. but certainly this experience of reality gives our souls all kinds of possible ways to become which is what we want. not bad things but we also don't want to be forced to do good for then love loses all meaning, and so we made it so that evil has a possibility to occur in order that we have an option of truly being good rather than only having one choice. ofc no one can really explain all of reality since reality is before human conception, but we can talk a little bit about it.

I think God has been answering for all eternity and we are inside of it. being able to feel pain does not have to be evil as it serves a purpose in that if we did not feel pain we would die and so our nerves are designed for us as mortal creatures to better exist in our world... but giving someone else pain for the sake of making them suffer would be evil which also happens to be a distortion of the intended purpose of being a creature that can feel. maybe pain is some kind of artistic idea of Gods that he found fascinating though i doubt he would find the misuse of it as something he sought out to utilize.

maybe pain is supposed to be some kind of honorable game that is hard to play. like if I came to the world and got mauled to death by a bear I bet my friends would be impressed with me at how well I took that situation. or they would be like "wow man that was really dramatic how you died in that car crash". perhaps natural painful experience of this reality is something we knew could be a possibility and did not think it a huge deal even though we might when we are creatures. maybe sometimes I come here as a dragon fly knowing i'm gonna get shot by some guy practicing with his arrows but I think it is amazing how long I can zoom around until I splatter. perhaps part of the purpose of the redwood trees was to see if anything would overuse them due to their qualities. I bet there are very many reasons why things are the way they are. who knows what kinds of games animals and the rest of the other creatures play that seem fun to the divine beings but seem super serious to us while we are here.

the angel of repentance said that we came to this world to change it. he prob. means from a worse state to a better one since he is all about repenting and becoming innocent, which he said that true innocence is one of the things that God loves the most.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

Whats "deadpool" anyway... a TV show?soUNDS LIKE sKY. Sounds terrible TOO, like a supernatual crime draMA where the bad guy is the detective, a kind of mercinary?

 

[The Cadet]

Whats "deadpool" anyway a TV show. Sounds terrible, like a supernatual crime dramaw where the bad guy is the detective, a kind of mercinary?

It's a movie about the comic superhero, "Deadpool", who became functionally unkillable through (depending on which origin story you think is canon) torturous science experiments/annoying the living incarnation of death. It also drove him completely insane, allowing him to break the fourth wall, and ramping his propensity for humor up to 10. It's an action comedy in the vein of Guardians of the Galaxy.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

That plot scares me. Too close to home.

What about immortality, the likelehood is we'll evolve a higher intelligence, finally peace out and traven the solar system, and then be invaded by higher dimensional crusaders or something similar. Like hitchhikers from an giant asteroid, or a dormant virus from the moon.

But theres hope, positve feedbaclk can increase complexity and organisation.


Meaning human culture wil probably develop progressively, in a positive fashion...

"Self-organization is a process where some form of overall order or coordination arises out of the local interactions between smaller component parts of an initially disordered system. The process of self-organization can be spontaneous, and it is not necessarily controlled by any auxiliary agent outside of the system. It is often triggered by random fluctuations that are amplified by positive feedback" - Wikipedia

 

[Noxot]

we could develop self replicating technology that ends up transforming this entire universe into a giant computer brain. even with a brain the size of a galaxy how much do you think something could accomplish? could probably create new universes. technology might lead to new life-forms that various scifi entertainments predict such as photonic life forms/holograms and androids. or we could just blow up one of our bombs we humans already made and destroy all the life on earth.

certainly there is already much unity in our world such as the natural way that animals eat each other. so i guess order is just a thing nature does. I think that humans try too hard to order things just like they try too hard to do good deeds. anarchy could work very well if we would just calm down. but there is even order in all the various conflicts we humans have with each other. we all help to define who we all are.

 

[SilverBlade]

Whats "deadpool" anyway... a TV show?soUNDS LIKE sKY. Sounds terrible TOO, like a supernatual crime draMA where the bad guy is the detective, a kind of mercinary?

Deadpool is a character from the X-Men universe. In the comics, he knows he's in a comic book. In the movie, he's constantly breaking the 4th wall and talking to the audience. All the other characters just think he's talking to himself.