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Dating before divorce is finalized

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Scenario: A guy's divorce will be finalized in one month. Would it be wrong for him to start meeting new women now? Add to the equation that his soon-to-be-ex-wife has committed adultery and is seeing another man. If you believe it's wrong for him to be talking to other women while still in the process of finalizing divorce, please give me scripture that supports your view.
 

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Scenario: A guy's divorce will be finalized in one month. Would it be wrong for him to start meeting new women now? Add to the equation that his soon-to-be-ex-wife has committed adultery and is seeing another man. If you believe it's wrong for him to be talking to other women while still in the process of finalizing divorce, please give me scripture that supports your view.

As long as you're legally seperated I see no problem with it. Marriage laws were totally different in biblical times than by todays cultural laws. In most states divorce is a year, that should be enough time, but if it's only a month, person may want to wait and know he honered his vow until the divorce.
 
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What about if the ex is not be cooperative in getting the papers done. That means he prolonging the outcome and whatever happens during that tie he brought on himself for maintaining the situation. Sometimes this happens- it is pure manipulation yet unfortunately people who don't know which legal channels to go through or can't afford to do so (this often happens with the spouse leaves an abusive situation) often get stuck with alimony.

That leads me to my next point.

Do you thing the rules change if it is an abusive relationship? As far as I'm concerned, when you become abusive you have broken your vows and thus the covenant that is marriage.
 
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What about if the ex is not be cooperative in getting the papers done. That means he prolonging the outcome and whatever happens during that tie he brought on himself for maintaining the situation. Sometimes this happens- it is pure manipulation yet unfortunately people who don't know which legal channels to go through or can't afford to do so (this often happens with the spouse leaves an abusive situation) often get stuck with alimony.

That leads me to my next point.

Do you thing the rules change if it is an abusive relationship? As far as I'm concerned, when you become abusive you have broken your vows and thus the covenant that is marriage.

Definitely changes things. I honestly find the whole it's cheating after divorce being adultery questionable. Even in the situation described in the OP it seems like the wife has moved on. Maybe things change maybe not. But it really seems like she has made up her mind. Just my 2 cents and or opinion.
 
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Scenario: A guy's divorce will be finalized in one month. Would it be wrong for him to start meeting new women now? Add to the equation that his soon-to-be-ex-wife has committed adultery and is seeing another man. If you believe it's wrong for him to be talking to other women while still in the process of finalizing divorce, please give me scripture that supports your view.

I don't recognize the government's involvement in deciding whether someone is married or not, except for their own purposes. That said, the wife's divorce lawyer would love to have evidence of you being unfaithful to your wife.
 
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GodsChild77 said:
Scenario: A guy's divorce will be finalized in one month. Would it be wrong for him to start meeting new women now? Add to the equation that his soon-to-be-ex-wife has committed adultery and is seeing another man. If you believe it's wrong for him to be talking to other women while still in the process of finalizing divorce, please give me scripture that supports your view.

Scripture seems to have two points on divorce:
1. (Bottom of the mountain) That it's a straightforward as the husband giving his wife evidence of her status and then (and only then) can they move on.
2. (Top of the mountain) That what God has joined should not be separated

Either way the answer to your question seems to be "stop".
 
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What about if the ex is not be cooperative in getting the papers done. That means he prolonging the outcome and whatever happens during that tie he brought on himself for maintaining the situation. Sometimes this happens- it is pure manipulation yet unfortunately people who don't know which legal channels to go through or can't afford to do so (this often happens with the spouse leaves an abusive situation) often get stuck with alimony.

That leads me to my next point.

Do you thing the rules change if it is an abusive relationship? As far as I'm concerned, when you become abusive you have broken your vows and thus the covenant that is marriage.

Legally adultery is sexual, morally I agree with you that adultery is breaking a covenant vow made to God. God had a special relationship with the jews, a covenant they often broke and accused them of adultery.

When we get married we make many vows, to honor, protect, be faithful, etc..in marriage, but we seem to think breaking only the sexual one can bring a moral divorce, but I say no, to break any of your covenant vows equals adultery in God's eyes giving the spouse a right to divorce.
 
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Scenario: A guy's divorce will be finalized in one month. Would it be wrong for him to start meeting new women now? Add to the equation that his soon-to-be-ex-wife has committed adultery and is seeing another man. If you believe it's wrong for him to be talking to other women while still in the process of finalizing divorce, please give me scripture that supports your view.


you have pretty much made it clear what you plan to do.. i really do think that you know right from wrong and are only looking to lighten the blow when it comes right down to whether you are doing His[God's] will or your own.. it really doesn't matter what their spouse did.. no sin should be used as a trump card to abolish the significance of another sin.. just so that you know.. i do understand desire, and lust.. i as do all people, struggle with it daily.. i just think it is wrong to ask others to endorse this sort of thing.. especially when we are all struggling within ourselves, with it.. you are kinda like the devil's messenger, coming onto a christian site and inviting all of its members to become part of your folly.. you would have been better to just commit the act and leave us out of it.. why not before you go any further ask yourself if you are truly saved.. i was at the laundromat this evening.. i met a really pretty nurse that was doing her laundry.. we chatted and laughed.. we really hit it off.. i mean she is striking.. then she mentioned going out for a drink.. that is where i drew the line.. i was courteous, and will remain that way in the future.. but, i told God that i will not settle for anything less than a christian girl.. so i am 46 years old, and not getting any younger.. i have been completely alone.. that means no anything with a girl, in 5 years.. i get lonely.. but, i want what God has in store for me.. if i step out and try and lay hold of something other than what He has for me.. i might and most probably will miss out on something really wonderful.. more so, i might even never reach my potential in Christ because i took the path most traveled.. please wait on the Lord.. don't you think that you deserve something more than just a couple mins of physical pleasure.. God will give you a spiritual pleasure that cannot be surpassed.. all you have to do, is ask Him to take the reigns.. when i see these young people running around with a different sex partner each weekend. i liken them to a couple of mutts roaming the neighborhood for something to eat and something to hump.. please forgive the vulgarity here.. i find them, and not just their actions offensive.. and if me a sinner, is offended.. what must our righteous Saviour think.. if this sort of thing does not offend you.. then you need to get saved..
 
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First let me clarify that I believe we live under the grace of God and not under "the law".

However, I find it best that for someone who already has a failed marriage not plan to get into any new relationship. Celibacy is good, imo. Time to spend more time with God and His plans for you instead. Paul, having been married and then not wished for all to be as he was, unencumbered that is, so that all your time could be for the work of God.
 
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Hello all - my 2 cents worth - my wife cheated - moved out and divorced me 3 months later. During the time I was waiting for the divorce to be final I wore my ring and kept my marriage vows. This meant I did not flirt, did not date, did not look for female companionship in any way. I behaved in fidelity to a vow I took before almighty God and it stood until the divorce was final. I then took off my ring.

Christians do have an obligation to behave uprightly and keep our vows. I know the state does not have control over my fidelity or my ex-wifes's fedelity but in order that Christ's name not be held in open reproach I respect the date the state says my marriage is dissolved.

I see it like this, If I was un-married the day before my wedding? Then I am married the day before my divorce is finalized and the decree is issued.

My best advice is to deny yourself and err on the side of honoring the Name of Christ.
 
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you have pretty much made it clear what you plan to do.. i really do think that you know right from wrong and are only looking to lighten the blow when it comes right down to whether you are doing His[God's] will or your own.. it really doesn't matter what their spouse did.. no sin should be used as a trump card to abolish the significance of another sin.. just so that you know.. i do understand desire, and lust.. i as do all people, struggle with it daily.. i just think it is wrong to ask others to endorse this sort of thing.. especially when we are all struggling within ourselves, with it.. you are kinda like the devil's messenger, coming onto a christian site and inviting all of its members to become part of your folly.. you would have been better to just commit the act and leave us out of it.. why not before you go any further ask yourself if you are truly saved..

Wow. I appreciate your view on my question. I've never had anyone liken me to "satan's messenger" though... and how did I make it clear what I plan to do by my original question? Not that I need to prove myself to you, but just so you know, this guy is my neighbor... so the matter is a little bit more delicate. I can't get rid of his number and avoid the place where I met him... he lives 2 doors down. So I'm looking to guard my heart. I have chosen and already told the guy that I don't think we should talk at all until after his divorce is final because I don't feel right about it. And in the meantime, I'm trying to decide for myself what I think about this guy in general since he is willing to start getting to know a woman before his divorce is final. That was my reason for asking the initial question. I wasn't sure what I thought about the talking to him while he's in the process of divorce. I think it would be worse if I didn't even consider what's right vs. what's wrong in a situation of temptation that hits close to home... literally. Sometimes right when you're up close to temptation it's harder to see things as clearly... or sometimes when life has hit you hard over and over again... you're weary and worn down and need to be reminded of the truths that aren't as clear to you. It's called being human to come on a Christian website for Christian guidance and insight.... But again, thanks for your thoughts.

when i see these young people running around with a different sex partner each weekend. i liken them to a couple of mutts roaming the neighborhood for something to eat and something to hump.. please forgive the vulgarity here.. i find them, and not just their actions offensive.. and if me a sinner, is offended.. what must our righteous Saviour think.. if this sort of thing does not offend you.. then you need to get saved..

Yeah, sure I struggle with lust... a lot of people do. But that's really not even what I was talking about. When I asked if it would be wrong for him to start "meeting" and "talking to" other women, I wasn't meaning having sex with them. I was literally meaning "talking to"... getting to know. I was confused on where to draw the line. To me it's quite obvious that having sex would not be the right thing to do, even if he was single. I just was not sure if it would be wrong for him to even get to know a new woman.
 
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Hello all - my 2 cents worth - my wife cheated - moved out and divorced me 3 months later. During the time I was waiting for the divorce to be final I wore my ring and kept my marriage vows. This meant I did not flirt, did not date, did not look for female companionship in any way. I behaved in fidelity to a vow I took before almighty God and it stood until the divorce was final. I then took off my ring.

Christians do have an obligation to behave uprightly and keep our vows. I know the state does not have control over my fidelity or my ex-wifes's fedelity but in order that Christ's name not be held in open reproach I respect the date the state says my marriage is dissolved.

I see it like this, If I was un-married the day before my wedding? Then I am married the day before my divorce is finalized and the decree is issued.

My best advice is to deny yourself and err on the side of honoring the Name of Christ.

The way that you handled your divorce - this is more along the lines that I was thinking... what I kept coming back to. Thanks for your thoughts. I just kept getting confused over a few issues... wasn't sure if it was wrong to even talk or if I was just being legalistic to a degree to think that way, but because I didn't want to risk doing the wrong thing I just chose to abandon interaction with him altogether. The place where I really was confused is is it even wrong to get to know, talk to a new woman after you know that you're divorcing your wife and it's definitely over? Especially, is it wrong when your wife was the one who brought the divorce on by being unfaithful in adultery? By thinking that, I wasn't trying to say - hey she did it, so it's okay for him to now. More of my confusion lay in wondering: Where is the marriage broken in God's eyes as opposed to society's eyes... that's what I was really struggling with understanding and coming to a conclusion on. I wanted to do what was right in God's eyes, not people's. But what you say about Christ's name not being held in reproach to people around who might be watching... that makes sense. Thanks, that helps.
 
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Everyone needs friends, of both genders. One in such a situation needs to be aware of the "rebound" feelings though, from a divorce and now being "alone". I think it would be best to make friends of the same gender for a while, and spend time doing guy or gal things, depending.

Too many people plunge into a new relationship far too quickly. I won't ask questions about the marriage and now divorce, but there is always a chance for reconciliation which God would bless. (But, no I'm not saying you have to be married etc., I'm not judging at all.)

It's always best to be a whole person yourself before you go looking for someone to "complete" you... the person you find shouldn't complete you but add to you...and you them.

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Everyone needs friends, of both genders. One in such a situation needs to be aware of the "rebound" feelings though, from a divorce and now being "alone". I think it would be best to make friends of the same gender for a while, and spend time doing guy or gal things, depending.

Too many people plunge into a new relationship far too quickly. I won't ask questions about the marriage and now divorce, but there is always a chance for reconciliation which God would bless. (But, no I'm not saying you have to be married etc., I'm not judging at all.)

It's always best to be a whole person yourself before you go looking for someone to "complete" you... the person you find shouldn't complete you but add to you...and you them.

:)

Yes, see... this is another thing that I'm concerned about. Rebound feelings. I'm not sure it's the best idea for me to even go there, this can't be the best time to be getting to know him like that. And yeah, I was also thinking that another reason I don't feel right about talking to him right now is... I would hate to be ANY kind of distraction if there's any possibility of him reconciling things with his wife. That was another main reason why I chose to not talk to him at all right now. It's inappropriate to get to know him right now for so many reasons. I don't know enough about him to know what kind of state he's in either. I'm not looking for trouble... the more I think about it, the more I think getting to know him right after his divorce is probably not be the best idea. I'm going to have to pray on this and how I will handle the next time I run into him.
 
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My wife left me to "live life". She was having an affair with a man she worked with (married with two kids). When she left she took the only available vehicle. I work in a nearby town and had no way to work. It was a Friday and I was venting on Facebook. An ol' friend, Christina (a good friend and my best friend's ex-girlfriend from high school, responded and asked how I planned on getting to work. I told her I didn't know and she lent me her car for nearly four months until I could get wheels to make it to work. I never missed a beat of work.

I had been staying with a friend (because my wife was abusive) and when my wife finally left she left the apartment totally trashed. Wrappers, half finished plates of food, dirty diapers, etc. were shoved under the couch and behind the television. Food was caked on the floors, it was a DISASTER. When Christina came over to lend me the car she saw the condition of the apartment and was beside herself. She helped me clean the entire apartment that weekend. I don't have any money for an attorney and the divorce has drug on for over two years. During that time Christina and I developed a deep friendship and a romance. I'm not proud of it. We had always been fond of each other but never so much as dated. She too is a divorcee and has braced me for things that have been developing. She's been such a blessing through all of this. She's very good with my little boy and has a five year old daughter. Separated, I found myself basically dating Christina. It was strange... after my pastor and good friends from church got to know her, they felt she was a blessing from the throne of God. I was a little shocked. I expected them to read us the riot act. Christina's roommate got caught up in drugs and being VERY irresponsible and as a result they lost their apartment. I took Christina and her daughter in because they had nowhere to go and I couldn't stand the idea of seeing her in a shelter after everything she had done for me. Living with her has been like a dream. She's clean, prayerful, kind, sensitive, understanding, patient, mothering, tender, and loving.

My wife has drug out this entire divorce process forever. I don't have the money for an attorney and she keeps stalling on her end. Also, we're TRYING to work out some of the financial and tax issues before finalizing things. She's really difficult to reason with and even talk to. She's "living it up" right now with friends, bars, and God knows what else. Even though Christina and I aren't married... things appear to be solid and very "family" like. My son loves coming to my house and hates leaving. Not only do I care for him, play with him, and give him much attention, but so does Christina. In addition, Christina's daughter has become like a best friend to my son.

I'm family oriented. I believe I will not be happy unless I remarry. And one day I plan to. Christina and I are taking things very slowly in that department. I know some guys who got engaged before their divorces were finalized, especially when they drug out like this one. I expect to have things finalized in the first quarter of next year. Wanted to get it done third quarter of this year. However, my ex stalled on a few things and even threw a few additional complications into the mix. Now it's the holidays and I don't feel like pushing a divorce through over the holidays for the sake of me and Christina's peace, not to mention keeping the children free from drama over the holidays.

Anyway... that's my experience in this kind of thing. It's definitely not what I ever envisioned for my life.
 
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