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<blockquote data-quote="Christian Soldier" data-source="post: 319370" data-attributes="member: 3759"><p>"Christiansoldier, Nietzsche is often mis-interrpreted, and associating his essay {der overman} with nazism is a common mistake. Have you ever read any of Nietzsche's books?? like I mentioned before Nietzsche was not a nationalist, and wrote against socialism and even Germany itself. "Wherever Germany sways her might she ruins culture". His works were also altered by his racist sister after he died."</p><p></p><p><span style="color: red">Often misinterpreted? Yeah, right. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red">I've heard your tired canard too many times. There are nazis who insist Hitler was just "misinterpreted". There are communists who insist Stalin was just "misinterpreted". Give me a break.</span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red">Oh, and blame his sister. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/old/sleep.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":sleep:" title="sleep :sleep:" data-shortname=":sleep:" /> That's such a pathetic excuse. Most of Nietzsche's works were already in print and circulated before he died, so the "racist sister" myth has less veracity than Grimm's fairy tales.</span> </p><p></p><p><strong>"Society has never regarded virtue as anything other than as a means to strength, power, and order. The State [is] unmorality organized... the will to war, to conquest and revenge... Society is not entitled to exist for its own sake but only as a substructure and scaffolding by means of which a select race of beings may elevate themselves to their higher duties... There is no such thing as the right to live, the right to work, or the right to be happy: in this respect man is no different from the meanest worm." </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Nietzsche</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>----------------------------------------------</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>"A daring and ruler race is building itself up.... The aim should be to prepare a transvaluation of values for a particularly strong kind of man, most highly gifted in intellect and will. This man and the elite around him will become the 'lords of the earth'."</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Nietzsche</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">I suppose you're going to tell us that it's just a "coincidence" that Hitler uses the phrase "lords of the earth" in <em>Mein Kampf</em>.</span> </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>-----------------------------------------------</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>"Ye shall love peace as a means to new war, and the short peace more than the long. You I advise not to work, but to fight. You I advise not to peace but to victory.... Ye say it is the good cause which halloweth even war? I say unto you: it is the good war which halloweth every cause. War and courage have done more great things than charity."</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Nietzsche</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>-----------------------------------------------</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>"Man shall be trained for war and woman for the procreation of the warrior. All else is folly." </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Nietzsche</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>-----------------------------------------------</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>"The strong men, the masters, regain the pure conscience of a beast of prey; monsters filled with joy, they can return from a fearful succession of murder, arson, rape, and torture with the same joy in their hearts, the same contentment in their souls as if they had indulged in some student's rag.... When a man is capable of commanding, when he is by nature a "Master," when he is violent in act and gesture, of what importance are treaties to him?... To judge morality properly, it must be replaced by two concepts borrowed from zoology: the taming of a beast and the breeding of a specific species."</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Nietzsche</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Christian Soldier, post: 319370, member: 3759"] "Christiansoldier, Nietzsche is often mis-interrpreted, and associating his essay {der overman} with nazism is a common mistake. Have you ever read any of Nietzsche's books?? like I mentioned before Nietzsche was not a nationalist, and wrote against socialism and even Germany itself. "Wherever Germany sways her might she ruins culture". His works were also altered by his racist sister after he died." [color=red]Often misinterpreted? Yeah, right. :rolleyes: I've heard your tired canard too many times. There are nazis who insist Hitler was just "misinterpreted". There are communists who insist Stalin was just "misinterpreted". Give me a break. Oh, and blame his sister. :sleep: That's such a pathetic excuse. Most of Nietzsche's works were already in print and circulated before he died, so the "racist sister" myth has less veracity than Grimm's fairy tales.[/color] [b]"Society has never regarded virtue as anything other than as a means to strength, power, and order. The State [is] unmorality organized... the will to war, to conquest and revenge... Society is not entitled to exist for its own sake but only as a substructure and scaffolding by means of which a select race of beings may elevate themselves to their higher duties... There is no such thing as the right to live, the right to work, or the right to be happy: in this respect man is no different from the meanest worm." Nietzsche ---------------------------------------------- "A daring and ruler race is building itself up.... The aim should be to prepare a transvaluation of values for a particularly strong kind of man, most highly gifted in intellect and will. This man and the elite around him will become the 'lords of the earth'." Nietzsche [color=red]I suppose you're going to tell us that it's just a "coincidence" that Hitler uses the phrase "lords of the earth" in [i]Mein Kampf[/i].[/color] ----------------------------------------------- "Ye shall love peace as a means to new war, and the short peace more than the long. You I advise not to work, but to fight. You I advise not to peace but to victory.... Ye say it is the good cause which halloweth even war? I say unto you: it is the good war which halloweth every cause. War and courage have done more great things than charity." Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------- "Man shall be trained for war and woman for the procreation of the warrior. All else is folly." Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------- "The strong men, the masters, regain the pure conscience of a beast of prey; monsters filled with joy, they can return from a fearful succession of murder, arson, rape, and torture with the same joy in their hearts, the same contentment in their souls as if they had indulged in some student's rag.... When a man is capable of commanding, when he is by nature a "Master," when he is violent in act and gesture, of what importance are treaties to him?... To judge morality properly, it must be replaced by two concepts borrowed from zoology: the taming of a beast and the breeding of a specific species." Nietzsche[/b] [/QUOTE]
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