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Darwin not only a racist but a sexist

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Maybe most of you already knew this, but I didn't until reading several articles and quotes of his, much of what was taken from his Descent of Man.
Darwin's Teaching of Women's Inferiority
This is the father of evolution.
Yeah the religious right says a lot of horrible thing about a lot of people. Darwin is a favorite target.

I guess they attack Darwin because they think doing so will somehow make evolution disappear.


Please go read your article again. Note that most of the quotes and references cited were not from Darwin himself. And many of the ones attributed to Darwin are heavily edited.

Now consider the era Darwin lived and the views on race and on women there were prevalent at the time. Sure it's easy to say Darwin was a sexist and a racist but in that he doesn't differ from just about any other English man of the era.

It is amusing to note that the people who are attacking Darwin over his views on women hold pretty much the same views themselves.

Finally, realize that what Darwin said or believed doesn't change his observations on natural selection or the truth of evolution.
 
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Yeah the religious right says a lot of horrible thing about a lot of people. Darwin is a favorite target.

I guess they attack Darwin because they think doing so will somehow make evolution disappear.


Please go read your article again. Note that most of the quotes and references cited were not from Darwin himself. And many of the ones attributed to Darwin are heavily edited.

Now consider the era Darwin lived and the views on race and on women there were prevalent at the time. Sure it's easy to say Darwin was a sexist and a racist but in that he doesn't differ from just about any other English man of the era.

It is amusing to note that the people who are attacking Darwin over his views on women hold pretty much the same views themselves.

Finally, realize that what Darwin sad or believed doesn't change his observations on natural selection or the truth of evolution.
Oh really? Perhaps some of this may not be true (although it could be) you do not think that his personnel views could not have had anything to do with his pursuits? It's interesting that he supposedly turned against God after he lost his 10 year old daughter (both he and his wife were devastated by it). That's not unusual, for someone to lose a loved one and blame God for it. What better way to get back at Him by trying to prove that He's evil or even non-existent? I don't think that it's coincidental that evolution is probably the single most widely used theory to try and disprove the existence of God and/or to refute the Bible.
 
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Oh really? Perhaps some of this may not be true (although it could be) you do not think that his personnel views could not have had anything to do with his pursuits? It's interesting that he supposedly turned against God after he lost his 10 year old daughter (both he and his wife were devastated by it). That's not unusual, for someone to lose a loved one and blame God for it. What better way to get back at Him by trying to prove that He's evil or even non-existent? I don't think that it's coincidental that evolution is probably the single most widely used theory to try and disprove the existence of God and/or to refute the Bible.

Darwin formulated his ideas on natural selection while traveling the world on the ship the Beagle from 1831 to 1836. He doesn't get married until 1839 and his daughter died in 1851.


As for Darwin's views on religion you may want to read what he actually said on the topic. What did Darwin Believe? is part to the the Darwin Correspondence Project and a good place to start.
 
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The Descent of Man Quotes by Charles Darwin
“With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilised men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilised societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.

“For my own part I would as soon be descended from that heroic little monkey, who braved his dreaded enemy in order to save the life of his keeper; or from that old baboon, who, descending from the mountains, carried away in triumph his young comrade from a crowd of astonished dogs—as from a savage who delights to torture his enemies, offers up bloody sacrifices, practices infanticide without remorse, treats his wives like slaves, knows no decency, and is haunted by the grossest superstitions.”

“At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace throughout the world the savage races. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen has remarked, will no doubt be exterminated. The break will then be rendered wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state as we may hope, than the Caucasian and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as at present between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.”
Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man

“Sympathy beyond the confines of man, that is humanity to the lower animals, seems to be one of the latest moral acquisitions. It is apparently unfelt by savages, except towards their pets. How little the old Romans knew of it is shewn by their abhorrent gladiatorial exhibitions. The very idea of humanity, as far as I could observe, was new to most of the Gauchos of the Pampas. This virtue, one of the noblest with which man is endowed, seems to arise incidentally from our sympathies becoming more tender and more widely diffused, until they are extended to all sentient beings. As”
Charles Darwin, The Descent of Man

The Woman Who Challenged Darwin's Sexism | Science | Smithsonian
 
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