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Dark Matter, Energy & Flow

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New Proof Unknown "Structures" Tug at Our Universe

"Dark flow" is no fluke, suggests a new study that strengthens the case for unknown, unseen "structures" lurking on the outskirts of creation.

In 2008 scientists reported the discovery of hundreds of galaxy clusters streaming in the same direction at more than 2.2 million miles (3.6 million kilometers) an hour.
 

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If a new study suggests it then it must be true...:thumbsup:

There must be a giant invisible pink unicorn outside the known universe that is causing the Dark Flow.

"It's not that most of the matter and energy in the universe is dark, but that most cosmologists are totally in the dark about the real nature of the universe." -- Wallace Thornhill, physicist, October 2006

"We are unfamiliar with plasma because we are blind to it. Modern astrophysicists are in this sense correct to claim that 90% of the universe is undetectable 'dark' substances. Their error is to fill in the blank with mathematical extrapolations from familiar theories and to leave their thinking blind to plasma." -- Mel Acheson, natural philosopher/physicist, December 2008

"In summation, Dark Matter and Dark Energy add up to the blank cheques that postpone the falsification of bankrupt theories." -- Ralph Sansbury, physicist, May 2009

"Gravitation didn't make any sense so they invented Dark Matter. Dark Matter didn't make any sense so they invented Dark Energy. When no sane people believed in Dark Energy they invented Dark Flow. Every year they invent a new Dark.'" -- Me, noob, 2009
 
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"'Dark flow' is no fluke, suggests a new study that strengthens the case for unknown, unseen 'structures' lurking on the outskirts of creation."

I had to laugh at that wording. A new study strengthens the case for the existence of the unknown and unseen. Lol wut? ^_^
 
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"'Dark flow' is no fluke, suggests a new study that strengthens the case for unknown, unseen 'structures' lurking on the outskirts of creation."

I had to laugh at that wording. A new study strengthens the case for the existence of the unknown and unseen. Lol wut?
^_^
"God did it" verified. :thumbsup:
 
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New Proof Unknown "Structures" Tug at Our Universe


“The find adds to the case that chunks of matter got pushed outside the known universe shortly after the big bang —which in turn hints that our universe is part of something larger: a multiverse.”
It hints that Big Bang cosmology continues to be unable to make sense of our universe, so it has to invoke a multiverse for help.
This mysterious motion can't be explained by current models for distribution of mass in the universe.
Why am I not surprised.

So is this dark flow moving in defiance of the expansion of spacetime or what?

Oh, I think they already answered that here:
The newfound flow cannot be explained by, and is not directly related to, the expansion of the universe, though the researchers believe the two types of movement are happening at the same time.
Ya know, there is a really simple explanation for all this - Electric flow. :)
 
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It hints that Big Bang cosmology continues to be unable to make sense of our universe, so it has to invoke a multiverse for help.
Why am I not surprised.
:thumbsup:

So is this dark flow moving in defiance of the expansion of spacetime or what?
They haven't gotten that far along in their ad hoc fallacies to be able to determine that yet.
 
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"God did it" verified. :thumbsup:

I do enjoy your ridiculous leaps to conclusions. If all this is true, we've established that an unknown, unseen structure is involved. Now it's your job to prove that the unknown, unseen structure is your God.

Good luck, you'll need it.
 
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trying to find those locusts he claims fell from venus.
You should really read someone so you know what they believe rather than invent new straw man fallacies and Quixotic windmills.

FYI: Velikovsky never claimed locusts fell from Venus. Of course, you've never read him so how would you know?

However the historical record clearly states there were plagues in Egypt (no doubt caused by the birth of Venus).

".... pestilence is throughout the land, blood is everywhere, death is not lacking..." -- Ipuwer, scribe, Papyrus 2, date debated

Have you ever seen a locust before?

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You should really read someone so you know what they believe rather than invent new straw man fallacies and Quixotic windmills.

FYI: Velikovsky never claimed locusts fell from Venus. Of course, you've never read him so how would you know?

However the historical record clearly states there were plagues in Egypt (no doubt caused by the birth of Venus).

".... pestilence is throughout the land, blood is everywhere, death is not lacking..." -- Ipuwer, scribe, Papyrus 2, date debated

Have you ever seen a locust before?
oh yes he did!
The ability of many small insects and their larvae to endure great cold and heat and to live in an atmosphere devoid of oxygen renders not entirely improbable the hypothesis that Venus (and also Jupiter, from which Venus sprang) may be populated by vermin (195).


he really did claim that the locusts came from venus, and how do you know i never read anything by him claiming this?

what difference does it make if i've ever seen one? LOL

lol how would the "birth of venus" cause locust swarms?

oh yes and i wonder what you think of his belief that oil comes from dead vermin from
jupiter and venus?
Consequently, if I am not mistaken,
Venus and Jupiter must possess an organic source of petroleum. On preceding pages it was
shown that there are some historical indications that Venus—and therefore also Jupiter—is
populated by vermin; this organic life can be the source of petroleum.(worlds in collision pg. 198)
- i decided to respond since i am amused by your false assumption, good luck explaining that away.
 
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