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Daniel 3:25 ?

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Can you explain this verse regarding exegesis and linguistics :

New International Version
He said, "Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods."

New Living Translation
"Look!" Nebuchadnezzar shouted. "I see four men, unbound, walking around in the fire unharmed! And the fourth looks like a god!"

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Can you explain this verse regarding exegesis and linguistics :

New International Version
He said, "Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods."

New Living Translation
"Look!" Nebuchadnezzar shouted. "I see four men, unbound, walking around in the fire unharmed! And the fourth looks like a god!"

Thanks in advance.
Sorry I don't understand exactly what you are asking?
The Living Bible is suppose to be a paraphrase. Which to most would mean it is a very good easy to read Bible but NOT a good study Bible.
Daniel 3 JPS Tanakh 1917
25 He answered and said, Lo, I see anashim arba'ah (four men) free (not bound, loose), walking in the midst of the eish (fire), and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Bar Elohin (Ben Elohim, Hebrew).
Tree of Life Version
25 But he answered saying, “Look! I see four men walking about unbound and unharmed in the middle of the fire, and the fourth has the appearance like a son of the gods!”
Are you questioning "sons of gods"?
Nebuchadnezzar a Babylonian King is most famous for the conquering of Judah and the destruction of Judah and Jerusalem in 586 BC. Judah had become a tribute state to Babylon in 605 BC.
Nebuchadnezzar proclaimed, “Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who has sent his angel and delivered his servants, who trusted in him, and set aside the king’s command, and yielded up their bodies rather than serve and worship any god except their own God. Therefore I make a decree: Any people, nation, or language that speaks anything against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego shall be torn limb from limb, and their houses laid in ruins, for there is no other god who is able to rescue in this way” (Daniel 3:28–29).

Your signature "Guide us to the Straight Way".
John 14:6 [Full Chapter]
Yeshua said to him, “I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life! No one comes to the Father except through Me.
 
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Can you explain this verse regarding exegesis and linguistics :

New International Version
He said, "Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods."

New Living Translation
"Look!" Nebuchadnezzar shouted. "I see four men, unbound, walking around in the fire unharmed! And the fourth looks like a god!"

Thanks in advance.

The original Aramaic text is as follows:
עָנֵה וְאָמַר הָֽא־אֲנָה חָזֵה גֻּבְרִין אַרְבְּעָה שְׁרַיִן מַהְלְכִין בְּגֹֽוא־נוּרָא וַחֲבָל לָא־אִיתַי בְּהֹון וְרֵוֵהּ דִּי רביעיא דָּמֵה לְבַר־אֱלָהִֽין׃ ס

The key phrase is "לְבַר־אֱלָהִֽין" l'bar-elahin, "son of the gods", "elahin" is the plural of "elaha" meaning "god" or "God" when referring to God. So the more accurate translation would be "[a] son of the gods", but the implication seems to be a divine being of some kind--those speaking believed the fourth person to be some kind of divine figure.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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So the more accurate translation would be "[a] son of the gods", but the implication seems to be a divine being of some kind--those speaking believed the fourth person to be some kind of divine figure.

Elah ("god") is in in the absolute/indefinite so it would be "a son of gods." ("A son of the gods" would be בר אלהיא /bar elahaya/.)

"Bar" in this case (with the absolute) can also indicate a member of a group or cohort or qualities ("hu bar naggarin" = lit. "he (is) a son of carpenters" = "he is a carpenter / he's a member of the carpenter's guild, etc.", "ena bar X shenin" = lit. "I (am) a son of X years" = "I am X years old").

So despite my nitpick... basically exactly what you said in conclusion, a divine, strong, remarkable person or hero. :)
 
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Elah ("god") is in in the absolute/indefinite so it would be "a son of gods." ("A son of the gods" would be בר אלהיא /bar elahaya/.)

"Bar" in this case (with the absolute) can also indicate a member of a group or cohort ("hu bar naggarin" = lit. "he (is) a son of carpenters" = "he is a carpenter / he's a member of the carpenter's guild, etc.", "ena bar X shenin" = lit. "I (am) a son of X years" = "I am X years old").

So despite my nitpick... basically exactly what you said in conclusion, a divine, strong, remarkable person or hero. :)

I was secretly hoping you'd show up. I was largely just winging it based on the little tidbits I could gather via Google.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods.” ESV

The fourth man looks like a son of the gods [Ca divine figure].” EXB

And the form of the fourth is like a son of the gods! AMP

and the fourth looks like a son of the gods.” HCSB

and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods!” NASB

and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God. KJV

seems pretty unanimous.
 
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