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<blockquote data-quote="ThinkFreeDom" data-source="post: 60924859" data-attributes="member: 310113"><p>Exactly the point I made earlier. The downside to our evolved morality is that it is often limited to those we see as within our group. Those outside our group are simply seen as rivals. This can happen between racial, cultural and religious groups. A good example would be the Spanish Inquisition. Tomas Torquemada, your namesake, tortured and murdered thousands for what they believed, he felt justified in that because they were not Christians, therefore killing them was not murder, but in fact his moral duty. </p><p></p><p>This is exactly the same concept I mentioned a few posts back and it is an acknowledged flaw in human morality - outside of your group your moral code doesn't apply. We see the same thing again and again through human history, in the OT we see the treatment of Egyptians, Midianites<em>,</em> Amalekites etc. In more recent history we have the Spanish Inquisition, the Rape of Nanking and the Holocaust. Always the same moral flaw, they are not of us they are the other, so the same rules of morality don't apply. Religion helps to perpetuate those divisions. It makes it easier for us to kill each other and justify it, as do racial, cultural and political differences.</p><p></p><p>You have said it, but you haven't backed it up. I have not seen any evidence to suggest that any respectable evolutionary biologists avoiding thinking seriously about the downsides to an evolved morality. </p><p></p><p>The evolutionary implications of rape and war have been extensively studied by evolutionary biologists and anthropologists, they don't state that they are atheists, as that is a private matter, but they certainly aren't creationists and there is no sign of them 'not wanting to think about the implications'. Craig Palmer and Randy Thornhill are good examples.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThinkFreeDom, post: 60924859, member: 310113"] Exactly the point I made earlier. The downside to our evolved morality is that it is often limited to those we see as within our group. Those outside our group are simply seen as rivals. This can happen between racial, cultural and religious groups. A good example would be the Spanish Inquisition. Tomas Torquemada, your namesake, tortured and murdered thousands for what they believed, he felt justified in that because they were not Christians, therefore killing them was not murder, but in fact his moral duty. This is exactly the same concept I mentioned a few posts back and it is an acknowledged flaw in human morality - outside of your group your moral code doesn't apply. We see the same thing again and again through human history, in the OT we see the treatment of Egyptians, Midianites[I],[/I] Amalekites etc. In more recent history we have the Spanish Inquisition, the Rape of Nanking and the Holocaust. Always the same moral flaw, they are not of us they are the other, so the same rules of morality don't apply. Religion helps to perpetuate those divisions. It makes it easier for us to kill each other and justify it, as do racial, cultural and political differences. You have said it, but you haven't backed it up. I have not seen any evidence to suggest that any respectable evolutionary biologists avoiding thinking seriously about the downsides to an evolved morality. The evolutionary implications of rape and war have been extensively studied by evolutionary biologists and anthropologists, they don't state that they are atheists, as that is a private matter, but they certainly aren't creationists and there is no sign of them 'not wanting to think about the implications'. Craig Palmer and Randy Thornhill are good examples. [/QUOTE]
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