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Creationists: "We don't have to prove anything!"
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<blockquote data-quote="TarHollow" data-source="post: 14044175" data-attributes="member: 101688"><p>Ah, yes, as humans we feel we have to have all the scientific answers to understand how the universe was created. </p><p> </p><p>Here's some Bible verses I live by as a christian that help me accept Creationism:</p><p> </p><p>Genesis 1:1, In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. It doesn't say how it was done, but that God did it.</p><p> </p><p>Heb. 11:3 By faith we understand the universe was created at Gods command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. How can you make something out of nothing? Well, if it's not visible to us, and if God created it, he can do it anyway he wants! And that doesn't mean we as humans <em>have</em> to understand it.</p><p> </p><p>Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding. This seconds what I said in the above verse. The universe and how it was created is <em>not</em> explained in the Bible, yet neither should us Christians trust in our own understanding, nor in anyone else's understanding. </p><p> </p><p>John 20:29 Because you have <em>seen</em> you believe. Greatest are those who have <em>not seen</em> and yet have believed. Jesus said this to a "doubting Thomas" when he said he would have to see Jesus face to face to believe he had indeed been raised from the dead. We live in a society where seeing is believing. Yet there is not one place in the Bible that says we have to know all of God's works and how and why he does things the way He does. Actually, it's just the opposite. We live <em>by faith</em> as Christians, not by sight, and certainly not by science. </p><p> </p><p>And just one last thing; (I hope this thread isn't too long): Doctor Billy Graham, in the 40's, had a degree in Anthropology at an early time in his evangelism. While no one at that time had heard of him, he was having some personal struggles. He was considering abandoning his ministry, for the scientific facts had learned in college did not match up to what he was preaching. I guess you could say he was having the same struggles all of us believers have at times. </p><p>One night, he left his motel room, took a walk in the woods with his Bible, opened it face up on a tree stump, and fell to his knees. He looked up at the stars and admitted to God that he doesn't have all the answers; that what the Bible teaches does not match what we see in science and discoveries. But then he added, I will, <em>by faith, </em>continue preaching God's word if it's God's will. He claims that at that moment, he felt a presence of God like he had never felt before.</p><p>A few days later, he arrived at a circus tent for his scheduled sermon and was astonished to be surrounded by reporters. It seemed that Howard Hughes, the media magnate, had gotten out the word to "puff up Graham". The rest, as we know it, is history. He has evangelized all over the world to millions over the last six decades. (The complete story of this account is in his autobiography, "Just as I Am".)</p><p> </p><p>And all this was possible by faith, the same faith the Bible tells us to have. And that's all the faith, all the knowledge, we as Christians need to have in our lives.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TarHollow, post: 14044175, member: 101688"] Ah, yes, as humans we feel we have to have all the scientific answers to understand how the universe was created. Here's some Bible verses I live by as a christian that help me accept Creationism: Genesis 1:1, In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. It doesn't say how it was done, but that God did it. Heb. 11:3 By faith we understand the universe was created at Gods command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. How can you make something out of nothing? Well, if it's not visible to us, and if God created it, he can do it anyway he wants! And that doesn't mean we as humans [i]have[/i] to understand it. Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding. This seconds what I said in the above verse. The universe and how it was created is [i]not[/i] explained in the Bible, yet neither should us Christians trust in our own understanding, nor in anyone else's understanding. John 20:29 Because you have [i]seen[/i] you believe. Greatest are those who have [i]not seen[/i] and yet have believed. Jesus said this to a "doubting Thomas" when he said he would have to see Jesus face to face to believe he had indeed been raised from the dead. We live in a society where seeing is believing. Yet there is not one place in the Bible that says we have to know all of God's works and how and why he does things the way He does. Actually, it's just the opposite. We live [i]by faith[/i] as Christians, not by sight, and certainly not by science. And just one last thing; (I hope this thread isn't too long): Doctor Billy Graham, in the 40's, had a degree in Anthropology at an early time in his evangelism. While no one at that time had heard of him, he was having some personal struggles. He was considering abandoning his ministry, for the scientific facts had learned in college did not match up to what he was preaching. I guess you could say he was having the same struggles all of us believers have at times. One night, he left his motel room, took a walk in the woods with his Bible, opened it face up on a tree stump, and fell to his knees. He looked up at the stars and admitted to God that he doesn't have all the answers; that what the Bible teaches does not match what we see in science and discoveries. But then he added, I will, [i]by faith, [/i]continue preaching God's word if it's God's will. He claims that at that moment, he felt a presence of God like he had never felt before. A few days later, he arrived at a circus tent for his scheduled sermon and was astonished to be surrounded by reporters. It seemed that Howard Hughes, the media magnate, had gotten out the word to "puff up Graham". The rest, as we know it, is history. He has evangelized all over the world to millions over the last six decades. (The complete story of this account is in his autobiography, "Just as I Am".) And all this was possible by faith, the same faith the Bible tells us to have. And that's all the faith, all the knowledge, we as Christians need to have in our lives. [/QUOTE]
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