Hieronymus
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But the ToE is.I notice you've slipped in a metaphysical claim there. For the theist, nothing in reality is exclusively naturalistic.
Right. All scientific theories are. The ultimate cause and purpose of our existence are outside their scope, and scientific theories make no claims about them.But the ToE is.
I don't believe that the world is 4000 years old.
Just my personal view, but I think the creation science community and those who propagate it do more to push people away from Christianity than anything else.
I have been familiar with that 6,000 year concept very likely before you were born or maybe crawling around in soiled diapers. JWs taught it to me and they were predicting the end of the world in 1975 based on that chronological idea.If the world is about 6,000 years old today then it was about 4,000 years old in New Testament times. Is that too much arithmetic for a creationist?
I have been familiar with that 6,000 year concept very likely before you were born or maybe crawling around in soiled diapers. JWs taught it to me and they were predicting the end of the world in 1975 based on that chronological idea.
http://www.4jehovah.org/did-jehovahs-witness-predict-the-end-of-the-world-in-1975/
So I DEFINITELY could not have meant that I think that the world is just 4000 years old.
Are you one of the liberal creationists who think the world could be 10,000 years old?
You gain nothing by sounding contemptuous.
You sounded contemptuous via gloating about my supposed ignorance..Are you one of the liberal creationists who think the world could be 10,000 years old?
You gain nothing by sounding contemptuous.
Here's another assumption Creationists tend to make. Since Genesis is the first book of the Bible, they assume that it is the foundation of all that follows. Genesis, and the Eden story, is foundational. They fear that if you remove the first chapter or two of Genesis, the whole structure falls.
What the creationists should be looking for is not the garden, but the literal cornerstone of the Earth (Job 38:6).
They do when they assume it (naturalistic pseudo rational interpretation of historical evidence) is all there is, and they definitely do do that, in public. And in that view God can't have done anything, let alone rebellious gods.Right. All scientific theories are. The ultimate cause and purpose of our existence are outside their scope, and scientific theories make no claims about them.
The best question i read somewhere here lately was:The earth DOES have literal cornerstones. You are sitting on one of them.
There is a problem here. No verse anywhere in the Bible, from beginning to end, says anything about God removing the Garden of Eden. If God destroyed the Tree of Life and the Garden around it, the Bible doesn't mention it. If God moved it to heaven, the Bible doesn't mention that either.
The best question i read somewhere here lately was:
What do the pillars (on which the earth rests) rest on??
...but the question is what do the pillars rest on?Exactly. The land sits on pillars of the earth. That is literally true.
...but the question is what do the pillars rest on?
(this is the flat domed earth model)
Ah, but that's not the domed flat earth model of Scripture.The pillars are supported by the center (core) of the earth.
Ah, but that's not the domed flat earth model of Scripture.
I don't lose any sleep over it anyways.
You sounded contemptuous via gloating about my supposed ignorance..
I accept that the Earth can be three and a half billion years old.
Who said the Garden has been removed or destroyed? Creationist certainly does not say that. YOU are the only one I ever heard to say that.
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