Creationism drops from top spot, to lowest point ever. Gallup Poll

[Papias]

For the first time since Gallup has been asking this question on creationism, the creationist answer is no longer the top reply, and this is the 3rd record low point in just the last 10 years. Here's the data over time:

This fits other polls by other groups (such as Pew Research), which all also show creationism declining.

When that "46" data point came out, I pointed out that it could be "compensation", and these data confirm that. That's in post #4, on this thread: Creationism Decreasing in the USA?

Now, not only do most Americans accept evolution, but theistic, Christian evolution is in the process of exceeding creationism. This happens just as Muslim creationism becomes the default lesson in Turkey.

It seems to me that creationism, aside from detracting from the glory of God, also drives people away from Christianity. So this is good news to me.

What do you think?

In Christ-

Papias

 

[HereIStand]

Interesting and disappointing news. Not surprising though. My sense is that most Christian colleges and evangelical periodicals teach creationism as one belief among others, as most evangelical churches do. Sadly, the trend will likely accelerate.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Not surprising...

I saw something yesterday I think from Pew Research that said less than 25% of professing Christians in America think the entire Bible is infallible and can be trusted.

 

[SnowyMacie]

For the first time since Gallup has been asking this question on creationism, the creationist answer is no longer the top reply, and this is the 3rd record low point in just the last 10 years. Here's the data over time:

This fits other polls by other groups (such as Pew Research), which all also show creationism declining.

When that "46" data point came out, I pointed out that it could be "compensation", and these data confirm that. That's in post #4, on this thread: Creationism Decreasing in the USA?

Now, not only do most Americans accept evolution, but theistic, Christian evolution is in the process of exceeding creationism. This happens just as Muslim creationism becomes the default lesson in Turkey.

It seems to me that creationism, aside from detracting from the glory of God, also drives people away from Christianity. So this is good news to me.

What do you think?

In Christ-

Papias

I'm actually surprised it was still at the top for that long.

My sense is that most Christian colleges and evangelical periodicals teach creationism as one belief among others, as most evangelical churches do.

I can't speak for other universities, but my own Christian university only taught evolution in both Bible and science classes. My biology professor, and I am sure others did the name, was blatantly clear about that at the beginning of the semester and had an open invitation to help any students that needed help reconciling their faith with evolution.

 

[HereIStand]

I can't speak for other universities, but my own Christian university only taught evolution in both Bible and science classes. My biology professor, and I am sure others did the name, was blatantly clear about that at the beginning of the semester and had an open invitation to help any students that needed help reconciling their faith with evolution.

At the evangelical university that I attended, our geology professor described his journey from creationism to some variant of theistic evolution. One supplementary reading for our class was Bernard Ramm's Christian View of Science and Scripture, which argues against a universal flood.

 

[SnowyMacie]

At the evangelical university that I attended, our geology professor described his journey from creationism to some variant of theistic evolution. One supplementary reading for our class was Bernard Ramm's Christian View of Science and Scripture, which argues against a universal flood.

I don't know if it's true or not, but I've always heard the science of geology was actually founded to try and prove the global flood story.

 

[tstor]

It seems to me that creationism, aside from detracting from the glory of God, also drives people away from Christianity. So this is good news to me.

Evolution most certainly detracts from the glory of God. It takes the creative attributes of Jehovah and assigns them to nature. Regarding creationism driving some people away from Christianity, good. I do not care to have people professing the faith who desire to water down the Biblical narrative.

 

[HereIStand]

I don't know if it's true or not, but I've always heard the science of geology was actually founded to try and prove the global flood story.

As I recall, the course presented uniformitarianism as the default view within geology. This was presented in contrast to catastrophism.

 

[Halbhh]

The serious problem with Young Earth Creationism (as distinct from the fundamental message of Gen 1 and of believing that God is the Creator of all we see -- physics, guided evolution, the whole of all things)...

...is that it becomes a religion by itself and replaces the gospel -- the Good News about Christ -- in the minds of people that don't yet know Christ!

And put off by this, they avoid all of Christianity (over a mere interpretation of Genesis not all believers agree to) and then they don't hear the actual gospel because of this!

 

[Halbhh]

One of my close sisters in Christ, a true believer whom I love as a sister, believes in a kind of Young Earth Creationism, and that does not bother me a bit, and we are especially glad to see each other every time we meet.

Even though I am pretty sure the Universe is about 14 billion years old -- Praise God, the Creator of all things!!.

We don't have any problem at all.

She does not preach Young Earth Creationism.

See?

If you ask her what Christianity is....she will tell you of Jesus, Christ, our Lord and Savior!

...

 

[Lulav]

More evidence of the wheat being sifted out from the chaff.

 

[Papias]

More evidence of the wheat being sifted out from the chaff.

Which groups do you think are "wheat" (Christians) and which do you think are "chaff" (non-Christians)?

Being that theistic evolution went *up*, is that more wheat or more chaff?

In Christ-

Papias

 

[Halbhh]

More evidence of the wheat being sifted out from the chaff.

Christ, our Lord --
24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock.
26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”

People, build your faith only on what He said to build your faith on -- learning and doing what Christ said.

Nothing else! All else is sand.

 

[Job 33:6]

For the first time since Gallup has been asking this question on creationism, the creationist answer is no longer the top reply, and this is the 3rd record low point in just the last 10 years. Here's the data over time:

This fits other polls by other groups (such as Pew Research), which all also show creationism declining.

When that "46" data point came out, I pointed out that it could be "compensation", and these data confirm that. That's in post #4, on this thread: Creationism Decreasing in the USA?

Now, not only do most Americans accept evolution, but theistic, Christian evolution is in the process of exceeding creationism. This happens just as Muslim creationism becomes the default lesson in Turkey.

It seems to me that creationism, aside from detracting from the glory of God, also drives people away from Christianity. So this is good news to me.

What do you think?

In Christ-

Papias

I see it around me, and even in muslim communities (at least here in the US), the gradual acceptance of theistic evolution. It just comes down to education, and its inevitable that young earth creationism, or instantaneous old earth creationism, drops off.

 

[Job 33:6]

I don't know if it's true or not, but I've always heard the science of geology was actually founded to try and prove the global flood story.

Catastrophism does pre date uniformitarianism. However, the founding fathers of modern geology, (steno, hutton, Lyell etc.) were proponents of uniformitarian old earth geologic laws. Things like the law of inclusions, cross cutting relations, super position, original horizontality etc.

Hutton has some great publications if youre ever interested, very pro old earth, but also pro God.

 

[Angel Wings 1288]

What the majority of Americans believe about creationism is irrelevant. What matters is if it's true or not, and I think it's true.