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In Revelation 13:18 we read; “Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” Many theories have been written concerning the number of the man/beast, but I believe many fall short in their understanding of just what the mark of the beast truly is. Because understanding the nature of the beast is to also understand the fallen nature in our firstborn man of sin.

It is written in Ecclesiastes 3:18; “I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.” This fallen nature was shown in the first man Adam after he had sinned, and was then cast out of the garden of God. And this sin nature passed along to all men who are firstborn of the flesh, and are also carnally minded and who also worship their ways, and their own image.

We are told in 1 Corinthians 15:47 “The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.” As we are also told in 1 Corinthians 15:46 “Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.” So understanding the firstborn nature of man as natural and carnally minded is to also understand this verse here in Jude 1:10 “But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.”

I gave you this brief overview of the sin nature of the firstborn man being like a natural brute beast in order that you might better understand the spiritual inward mark of the man/beast which pertains to the heart and mind of man. Because understanding the language and signs used to describe the spiritual nature working in the firstborn man will also help you understand what I’m about to show you next concerning the counting, or calculating the number of the man/beast.

To me the mystery of this number had to also reflect the same image and sin nature (or inward mark) as it pertained to the man/beast according to scripture. And so both the name and the number would speak the same message, concerning the man/beast and also calculating his number by certain key words found in scripture. Just as I believe the Lord has given me insight into the meaning of those key words in order to confirm this message by also calculating their numbers using the Hebrew numerical value of each word to describe this image and mark within the firstborn man of sin.

Man and beast in the beginning were first formed from the ground (earth). Adam in Hebrew also means man, as the number is the number of a man, which also speaks of mankind. The name Adam also means (red, earthly) as the scriptures also say the first man is of the earth. It is also important to note that Edom means (red, earthly, of blood) as well, as also Edom is another name for Esau, in which we also have the sign of the firstborn coming out red.

Who also sold out his birthright over some red pottage. Genesis 25:30 “And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red pottage; for I am faint: therefore was his name called Edom.” Also the Lord said of Esau Romans 9:13 “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” Again keep in mind Esau was the firstborn, just as Cain was also the firstborn of Adam, who was also cast out and received a “mark.”

Also the Dragon (Serpent) which empowers the beast in Revelation is shown as red, and the beast is also shown as red (or scarlet) in the book of Revelation. Just as it was the serpent (Devil) in the garden that deceived the first man, or Adam.

So with what I’ve given you thus far we have the key words to count the number of the man/ beast. These words in the first example are as follows, #1 Adam, #2 red 119 #3 beast #4 ground (earth) #5 Red 132#6 Edom #7 Serpent. (*Note there are 2 separate Hebrew words used here to describe red)

When you calculate all these names used to describe this spirit nature working in the firstborn earthly man using the Hebrew spelling and numerical value of the names, the total adds up to 666.

Here are the words also in Hebrew, and there number values based on Hebrew gematria

]אָדָם = Adam = Man = 45 (Adam means red, earthy)
]אָדַם=red (as in sin like scarlet ) = 45 * red 119
]חַי= beast = 18 (men are beasts, scarlet beast)
]אֲדָמָה= ground (earth) = 50 (Man and beast formed out of ground/earthy)
]אַדְמֹנִי= Red = 105 (Esau the firstborn came out red) * red 132
]אֱדֹם= Edom = 45 (Esau called Edom, which means red, earthly, of blood)
]נָחָשׁ= Serpent = 358 ( Red Dragon)

The total being 666

Or, the same message can be shown like this….


']דָּם = Blood = 44 (Edom means red, earthly, of blood)
]חַי= beast= 18 (scarlet colored beast)
']בְּכוֹר =firstborn = 228 (firstborn sin nature)
]עֵשָׂו = Esau = 376 (firstborn Esau, God hated)

Total 666

Revelation 15:2 “And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
 
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In Revelation 13:18 we read; “Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” Many theories have been written concerning the number of the man/beast, but I believe many fall short in their understanding of just what the mark of the beast truly is. Because understanding the nature of the beast is to also understand the fallen nature in our firstborn man of sin.

It is written in Ecclesiastes 3:18; “I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.” This fallen nature was shown in the first man Adam after he had sinned, and was then cast out of the garden of God. And this sin nature passed along to all men who are firstborn of the flesh, and are also carnally minded and who also worship their ways, and their own image.

We are told in 1 Corinthians 15:47 “The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.” As we are also told in 1 Corinthians 15:46 “Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.” So understanding the firstborn nature of man as natural and carnally minded is to also understand this verse here in Jude 1:10 “But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.”

I gave you this brief overview of the sin nature of the firstborn man being like a natural brute beast in order that you might better understand the spiritual inward mark of the man/beast which pertains to the heart and mind of man. Because understanding the language and signs used to describe the spiritual nature working in the firstborn man will also help you understand what I’m about to show you next concerning the counting, or calculating the number of the man/beast.

To me the mystery of this number had to also reflect the same image and sin nature (or inward mark) as it pertained to the man/beast according to scripture. And so both the name and the number would speak the same message, concerning the man/beast and also calculating his number by certain key words found in scripture. Just as I believe the Lord has given me insight into the meaning of those key words in order to confirm this message by also calculating their numbers using the Hebrew numerical value of each word to describe this image and mark within the firstborn man of sin.

Man and beast in the beginning were first formed from the ground (earth). Adam in Hebrew also means man, as the number is the number of a man, which also speaks of mankind. The name Adam also means (red, earthly) as the scriptures also say the first man is of the earth. It is also important to note that Edom means (red, earthly, of blood) as well, as also Edom is another name for Esau, in which we also have the sign of the firstborn coming out red.

Who also sold out his birthright over some red pottage. Genesis 25:30 “And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red pottage; for I am faint: therefore was his name called Edom.” Also the Lord said of Esau Romans 9:13 “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” Again keep in mind Esau was the firstborn, just as Cain was also the firstborn of Adam, who was also cast out and received a “mark.”

Also the Dragon (Serpent) which empowers the beast in Revelation is shown as red, and the beast is also shown as red (or scarlet) in the book of Revelation. Just as it was the serpent (Devil) in the garden that deceived the first man, or Adam.

So with what I’ve given you thus far we have the key words to count the number of the man/ beast.

These words in the first example are as follows, #1 Adam, #2 red 119 #3 beast #4 ground (earth) #5 Red 132 #6 Edom #7 Serpent. (*Note there are 2 separate Hebrew words used here to describe red)

When you calculate all these names used to describe this spirit nature working in the firstborn earthly man using the Hebrew spelling and numerical value of the names, the total adds up to 666.

Here are the words also in Hebrew, and there number values based on Hebrew gematria

אָדָם= Adam = Man = 45 (Adam means red, earthy)
אָדַם= red ( a sin sin like scarlet ) = 45 * red 119
חַי = beast = 18 (men are beasts, scarlet beast)
אֲדָמָה = ground (earth) = 50 (Man and beast formed out of ground/earthy)
אַדְמֹנִי = Red = 105 (Esau the firstborn came out red) * red 132
אֱדֹם = Edom = 45 (Esau called Edom, which means red, earthly, of blood)
נָחָשׁ = Serpent = 358 ( Red Dragon)

The total being 666

Or, the same message can be shown like this….

דָּם Blood = 44 (Edom means red, earthly, of blood)
חַי= beast= 18 (scarlet colored beast)
בְּכוֹר =firstborn = 228 (firstborn sin nature)
עֵשָׂו = Esau = 376 (firstborn Esau, God hated)

Total 666

Revelation 15:2 “And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

Here cleaned up your post if you can use it:thumbsup:
 
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Thanks Sis! :thumbsup: When I first posted it, it was full of font errors (could hardly read it.) When I went to correct it I lost the hebrew letters and had to find em again and post em. But I couldn't remove that little bar in front of em without erasing the words. ^_^

I'm not learned in puter skills at all. :blush:
 
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That's one possibility.

My favorite pastor John Hagee once suggested that the Antichrist could be identified by adding up the Hebrew version of his name, since Hebrew letters each have a numerical value.

I believe many are deceived already by looking for a single evil man to come, when people really ought to be looking within themselves for that firstborn man of sin nature.
 
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Can't agree with the logic on one basis...the beast has already been. It was the Roman Empire.

When we allow scripture to speak we don't have to look to codes and cryptic logic.

God isn't hiding anything from us.

Yea, but not everyone has ears to hear what the Spirit is saying in scripture.
 
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Isaiah 63:1-6

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63 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.
2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?
3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.
 
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Yea, but not everyone has ears to hear what the Spirit is saying in scripture.

I'll hold with what the Spirit says in my ears. He spelled it out in Daniel and Revelation how to understand the beast and the number of his name. Daniel and John did a very good job with it too...:thumbsup:
 
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Post it bro, that's what this thread is concerning, and I love to weigh out things myself. If you have a post on this just copy paste it here, would love to read it :thumbsup:
Hey Sis!

I know you're working your way through this so I'll just say read Daniel 7 and Rev 13...you'll see some parallels there.

See what you think.
 
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Hey Sis!

I know you're working your way through this so I'll just say read Daniel 7 and Rev 13...you'll see some parallels there.

See what you think.

Thanks Eb! I'll give it a look bro, but you should know by now I don't do so good with this stuff ^_^

Yall are supposed to share and give us something to test out. Only so we can give ya's a hard time asking ya's hard questions lol

kidding wit chu:hug:
 
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Cain-u-than = 616
100 - ק
10 - י
50 - נ
6 - ו
400 - ת
50 - נ

Kenan-u-than = 666
100 - ק
10 - י
50 - נ
50 - נ
6 - ו
400 - ת
50 - נ

compare that to Jonahthan or Ionathan
a "than" is a sea monster as in leviathan.
it could also be thanatos as in "his name that sat thereon was thanatos"

Now Cain said to his brother Abel, “Let’s go out to the field.” While they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him. 9 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Where is your brother Abel?”
“I don’t know,” he replied. “Am I my brother’s keeper?”
10 The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. 11 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.”
13 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”
15 But the Lord said to him, “Not so; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden

John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies
 
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Hebrews 12:15-17

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15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

Matthew 16:26
For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?



Luke 9:25
For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?
 
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Isaiah 63:1-6

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63 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.
2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?
3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.

Exodus 26:14
And thou shalt make a covering for the tent of rams' skins dyed red, and a covering above of badgers' skins.

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.



 
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Matthew 27:28
And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe.

Exodus 26:1
Moreover thou shalt make the tabernacle with ten curtains of fine twined linen, and blue, and purple, and scarlet: with cherubims of cunning work shalt thou make them.

Exodus 26:31
And thou shalt make a vail of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen of cunning work: with cherubims shall it be made:

John 19:2
And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe,


John 19:5
Then came Jesus forth, wearing the crown of thorns, and the purple robe. And Pilate saith unto them, Behold the man!


 
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Exodus 25:4
And blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine linen, and goats' hair,

Genesis 27:11
And Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man:

Genesis 27:16 And she put the skins of the kids of the goats upon his hands, and upon the smooth of his neck:

 
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