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Closure of The Messianic Way Subforum

"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."(Matthew 22:36-40)

The Lord God has made it abundantly clear in the Holy Scriptures that His followers are to serve and glorify Him in all things by living all aspects of their lives with the intent of loving others as they love themselves. This task, to which all believers have been called, is not an easy one by any means. Here at Christian Forums, we make every attempt to facilitate the meeting of this divine mandate. That being said, when something becomes a stumbling block which is either preventing that love or creating something to the contrary, it becomes prudent to take all the necessary steps to remove such a hindrance. It is based on that reasoning that we, the Administrators of the Theology Category here at CF, have come to the conclusion that the time has come to close The Messianic Way subforum of Unorthodox Theology.

Reaching this decision was not made haphazardly or with little contemplation. The rationale behind it is extensive and compelling. Simply put, The Messianic Way has ceased to be a loving environment, and rather has become a forum where frequent strife and animosity abounds. In his newly crafted Vision (link:CF Vision - Christian Forums) for CF, pauler has outlined the following point:

Guess I'd never heard of "Messianic Way" much but I can see writing on the wall~ours is a most strife filled forum; many reports come from here...
 

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I guess it could happen... but its just a subfoum for unbelivers.

In light of that, we want to make it perfectly clear that this decision has not been reached in an attempt to silence, shut out, or alienate our Jewish members. As pauler stated, CF and the believers herein seek to openly welcome non-believers in our midst in order to make them feel welcomed and loved. The problem is not the views and ideas that our Jewish members put forth, but rather the manner in which they treat those with whom they disagree. They have made it clear that they have no real interest in learning about Christ and have continually refused to engage Christians on a level playing field. This problem can be clearly seen in contradiction of another portion of Paulers vision:
 
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You quoted the preamble and not the actual reasons viz. treatment of Christians. Regarding this bit:

ours is a most strife filled forum; many reports come from here...

That is not something which is impossible to change...the primary people who must shoulder the burden on that point are the posters in this forum.
 
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That is not something which is impossible to change...the primary people who must shoulder the burden on that point are the posters in this forum.
Wow....I guess it is highly possible then.

Cool, the last of us here who actually resemble any sort of real christianity will finally all leave.
 
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Wow....I guess it is highly possible then.

Cool, the last of us here who actually resemble any sort of real christianity will finally all leave.

That's not what he said.
 
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Guess I'd never heard of "Messianic Way" much but I can see writing on the wall~ours is a most strife filled forum; many reports come from here...


You are making an association that is not there. If you were unaware of the Messianic Way forum in the Unorthodox Theology forum, then you probably really missed the point of why it was closed.
 
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That's the implication. If you don't behave in accordance Pope Pauls rules get out.

No worries we knew that already.

And that is not true.

Let's keep it civil.
 
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Just about any discussion is permitted. The issue is one of mode. One can make a point without flaming the opponent. It seems to me that some simply can not have a civil conversation without having to resort to some flame or another. We are all adults here (at least I hope so:)) but some post worse than my 6 year old granddaughter. It's pitiful.

The Messianic Way forum got to the point were conversation was not possible. Every time someone posted against some the flames and reports would simply fly. The accusations of persecution, the constant comparison to Nazism, the constant blasphemies of Jesus, the constant pokes at Christianity, etc etc etc. made that forum impossible to keep. I am in no way saying that the Jewish members were fully at fault. I like quite a few of them. The forum's purpose was no longer and some were asking for theological protections that we simply were not and could not give. This IS a Christian website.

Now, can we get back to the regular programming?:)
 
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Guess I'd never heard of "Messianic Way" much but I can see writing on the wall~ours is a most strife filled forum; many reports come from here...
Alot of strife that came from here was from people trying to
get change implimented in the SOF or definitions of Christianity
for CF - something closer to what it was pre 7-7-7.

It never happened and then a rules crackdown where people
had to stop trying.

I don't think many other forum areas cared to discuss it
or seek change as much as this one.
Remove that and I'd say we weren't probly as bad as
any other areas.
 
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True~yet reasoning template matches my correspondence with staff regarding the nature of the CC forum...its problems are very similar.
I don't think it's similar at all.

The main reason this forum has had problems was seeking change
to CF in general (which never went over well) - and then influxes of liberalism to
conservative safe havens which were fought against.
(which we obviously won't have any need to do anymore)

Other than that, I don't at all see that this forum is nasty or
meanspirited - every once in awhile you'de get a radical poster
here & there, but they've been long gone and I see
even less of our hardcore conservatives just recently
:confused: :o

Nobody's perfect but for the majority of the time I don't see
a nasty forum here (maybe this depends on how deeply
conservative someone is and isn't as to how its viewed too)
 
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