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Could final Elijah = Moshiach ben Ephrayim?

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I do believe that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is the ultimate Cyrus type which I believe can be seen in the way that he has been dealing with people in this time period who have a brush with death...... a near death experience......and feel loved in spite of being non- Jews or non- Christians.

But I see a need for a political fulfillment of Isaiah chapter 45 and a man named Eporu Ronald Alfred has written an insightful article on that topic.

I quote it in full here in post #1:
Do you believe a massive Holy Spirit tsunami is coming?
 
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I would tend to think not. I believe that Yeshua came as Mashiach ben Yosef, messiah the son of Joseph... i.e. the suffering servant. When he returns it is as the conquering King, or mashiach ben David (Messiah son of David). The first coming he did the work necessary for all and began the call into the nations for Ephraim. When he returns he will assemble all of His Israel as one bride after putting down her enemies.
 
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Good reply indeed.... but the relationship that the first century Messianic Jewish community had with the Rabbinic Jews until the time of the destruction of the Temple is interesting isn't it?


 
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Good reply indeed.... but the relationship that the first century Messianic Jewish community had with the Rabbinic Jews until the time of the destruction of the Temple is interesting isn't it?
Definitely. But one of the things that we don't understand in the modern (western) church is that the early messianic Jews and what we would now call Orthodox Jews, continued to fellowship together. We have ample evidence in Acts with hints in other books as well as extra biblical time period references that reveal this as being true. The problem is, we get the impression from the gospels that all Jews were Pharisees and Sadducees and that they were all bad. Not true... a relatively small amount of Jews were Pharisees and then there were two schools of them with one receiving the brunt of Yeshua's rebukes. The Sadducees were the priests (and civil elite) and again, were a small minority. Point being, that great schism we see in parts of the NT, is out of context. The messianic and orthodox, if you will, weren't as divided as we are raised to believe.
 
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Truly well said.....

John 8:31
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

Jhn 12:11

Because that by reason of him many of the Jews went away, and believed on Jesus.

Act 14:1

And it came to pass in Iconium, that they went both together into the synagogue of the Jews, and so spake, that a great multitude both of the Jews and also of the Greeks believed.

Act 17:5

But the Jews which believed not, moved with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the people.
 
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Speaking of Moshiach ben Ephrayim/ Messiah son of Joseph????????????

Trump Hints at Becoming King of Israel


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I admit that I could be wrong about this......
but at this time I lean heavily toward a final Elijah who could even play a huge role in setting the stage politically and even economically for the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple and / or the Ezekiel 40
to Ezekiel 48 temple complex?????
 
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