Hi there,
I would appreciate a good discussion around this topic.
I tried a few days ago but I seem to strike a nerve and the discussion went South.
First can we agree on a biblical understanding of what conviction is in the life of the believer.
Second can we explore whether confession without conviction is fruitful.
It seems that branches of the church are resistant to the idea of the Holy Spirit working in individual hearts and prefer to emphasise the conviction of the corporate Body.
Some churches are heavy on confession but de-emphasise the need for individual conviction.
Lastly if someone claims I am in sin - how should I go about determining if this is so.
Personally I am very strong on trusting God to speak to me about such matters.
Paul in 1 Cor 4 seems to indicate He does not allow the judgements of others to affect him in fact does not even indulge in self judgement. This is because at the end of the day God alone knows the heart.
As a young believer I was told 'no fishing' regarding trying to work out matters in my life but trust God to bring such to the light.
Input greatly appreciated.
Beloved one, I heard your concern:
“First can we agree on a biblical understanding of what conviction is in the life of the believer.”
This is what we have heard :
because our gospel came to you not only in word, but also in power and in the Holy Spirit and with
full conviction. You know what kind of men we proved to be among you for your sake. -1 Thessalonians 1:5 ESV
If we look on New King James translation:
“For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit and
in much assurance, as you know what kind of men we were among you for your sake.”
I Thessalonians 1:5 NKJV
So full conviction is much assurance. What conviction or assurance?
in much assurance, as we know what kind of men apostles were among us for our sake.
How we should perceive
what kind of men apostles were among us for our sake ?
This is what we have heard:
“But as we have been approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel, even so we speak, not as pleasing men, but God who tests our hearts. For neither at any time did we use flattering words, as you know, nor a cloak for covetousness—God is witness. Nor did we seek glory from men, either from you or from others, when we might have made demands as apostles of Christ. But we were gentle among you, just as a nursing mother cherishes her own children. So, affectionately longing for you, we were well pleased to impart to you not only the gospel of God, but also our own lives, because you had become dear to us. For you remember, brethren, our labor and toil; for laboring night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you, we preached to you the gospel of God. You are witnesses, and God also, how devoutly and justly and blamelessly we behaved ourselves among you who believe; as you know how we exhorted, and comforted, and charged every one of you, as a father does his own children, that you would walk worthy of God who calls you into His own kingdom and glory.”
I Thessalonians 2:4-12 NKJV
This is what assurance should be impressed on our hearts and that we should confess with our mouths:
But apostles have been approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel, even so apostles speak, not as pleasing men, but God who tests their hearts. For neither at any time did they use flattering words, as we know, nor a cloak for covetousness—God is witness. Nor did apostles seek glory from men, either from us or from others, when apostles might have made demands as apostles of Christ. But apostles were gentle among us, just as a nursing mother cherishes her own children. So, affectionately longing for us, apostles were well pleased to impart to us not only the gospel of God, but also apostles’ own lives, because we had become dear to apostles. For we remember, as apostles’brethren, apostles labor and toil; for laboring night and day, that apostles might not be a burden to any of us, apostles preached to us the gospel of God. We are witnesses, and God also, how devoutly and justly and blamelessly apostles behaved themselves among us who believe; as we know how apostles exhorted, and comforted, and charged every one of us, as a father does his own children, that we would walk worthy of God who calls us into His own kingdom and glory.
( reference from I Thessalonians 2:4-12 NKJV)
So beloved one, consider what apostle Paul have said:
“
For this reason I also suffer these things; nevertheless I am not ashamed, for I know whom I have believed and am persuaded
that He is able to keep what I have committed to Him until that Day.
Hold fast the pattern of sound words which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus.
That good thing which was committed to you, keep by the Holy Spirit who dwells in us.”
II Timothy 1:12-14 NKJV
Beloved one, for this reason we
also suffer these things, that we confessed according to I Thessalonians 2:4-12
NKJV
.
Beloved one,
that we confessed according to I Thessalonians 2:4-12
NKJV
— we
hold fast the pattern of sound words which we have heard from apostles.
Beloved one,
that we confessed according to I Thessalonians 2:4-12
NKJV, that is,
in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus.
So the full conviction or much assurance in the life of the believer, that is
in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus.
Thereafter, we heard after I Thessalonians 2:4-12
NKJV
:
“And you became followers of us and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Spirit, so that you became examples to all in Macedonia and Achaia who believe.”
I Thessalonians 1:6-7 NKJV
And so we became followers of holy apostles and of the Lord Jesus Christ, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Spirit, so that we became examples to all in every place who believe.
So the full conviction or much assurance, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Spirit.
For we heard:
“
And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;
of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.”
John 16:8-11 NKJV
Likewise, we heard:
“But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you;
and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.””
Acts 1:8 NKJV
Beloved one, let us trust that we received the power of the Spirit of His words when the Holy Spirit has come upon us, let us bear witness to Christ our Lord in all places on earth.
Beloved one, let us bear witness that they may believe in Christ, for this is the conviction or assurance, that they may be saved from sin.
Beloved one, let us bear witness that Christ who was sent by the Heavenly Father has been resurrected, that they may be assured or convicted of God’s righteousness through faith in Christ Jesus.
Beloved one, let us bear witness that God is just, because the ruler of this world is judged.
And that we heard:
“
For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.”
John 5:22-23 NKJV
Beloved one, let us bear witness that God is just, that
the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son,
that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father.
Beloved one, in the life of as believers, let us bear witness to the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ did not come to them in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit and
in much assurance, as they know what kind of men we were among them for their sake.
Beloved one, remember what we have been told:
“I do not write these things to shame you,
but as my beloved children I warn you. For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers;
for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. Therefore I urge you,
imitate me. For this reason I have sent Timothy to you, who is my beloved and faithful son in the Lord,
who will remind you of my ways in Christ, as I teach everywhere in every church.”
I Corinthians 4:14-17 NKJV
Beloved one, for in Christ Jesus the apostles became our fathers through the gospel.
Therefore the apostles urge us to imitate them. So as faithful ministers of God, let us remind others of the apostles’ way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what the apostles teach everywhere in every church.
To God be glory and thanksgiving through Christ Jesus. Amen.