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[FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+2]Death threats from the 'religion of peace'[/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=-1]Posted: September 21, 2006
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Pope Benedict XVI, during a speech in Germany, at a university where he used to teach, quoted a 14th-century Byzantine Christian emperor: "He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.' ... Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. 'God,' the emperor says, 'is not pleased by blood – and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats.'" And, the pontiff even condemned violent jihad, or "holy war."

Note that the pope, in a very lengthy speech critical of the growing secularization of the West, devoted only three paragraphs to the subject of jihad. Moreover, the pope repeatedly said that those words were not his own. And later, the Vatican said the pope intended only to spark dialogue and that the emperor's words in no way reflected the thoughts of the pope himself.
How did some adherents to the religion of peace react?

Angry riots, death threats, burning of the pope in effigy and demands for an apology.
Somali Muslims shot an Italian nun who worked in a Somali hospital. They shot her four times in the back as she left the hospital, and as she lay dying on the ground, she muttered in Italian to her killers, "I forgive, I forgive."

Firebombs were hurled at seven churches during one weekend in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. One group demanded a televised apology, or they would blow up all of Gaza's churches.

As usual, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a "moderate" pro-Arab organization, condemned the pope's words, but not the violent reaction to them.
The deputy leader of the Turkish prime minister's party said, "He is going down in history in the same category as leaders such as Hitler and Mussolini."

Al-Qaida in Iraq issued this death threat: "You infidels and despots, we will continue our jihad and never stop until God avails us to chop your necks and raise the fluttering banner of monotheism when God's rule is established governing all people and nations. ... [The cross-worshipper pope] and the West are doomed. ... We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose the jizya [non-Muslim] tax; then the only thing acceptable is a conversion [to Islam] or [being killed by] the sword."

Following this violent reaction, the pope, at his weekly Angelus blessing this past Sunday, used the word "sorry." Sorry, that is, for the violent reaction to his words. Still, the pope refused to retract his statements. And why should he? After all, the violent reaction proved his point in ways the pope's words never could.

Now, what about stateside? Editorials in two major American newspapers criticized – the pope! In an editorial chastising the pope for alleged insensitivity, the Los Angeles Times said, "The pope shouldn't be quoting people who call [Islam] 'evil.'" The editorial concluded, " ... opes need to watch their words when they have political consequences."

Calling the pope a "doctrinal conservative," the New York Times said, " ... [H]is greatest fear appears to be the loss of a uniform Catholic identity, not exactly the best jumping-off point for tolerance or interfaith dialogue. The world listens carefully to the words of any pope. And it is tragic and dangerous when one sows pain, either deliberately or carelessly."

So this is where we are. The people behind the publication of the "offensive" Danish cartoons fear being seen in public, lest they suffer the fate of filmmaker Theo van Gogh. Van Gogh, a descendant of the painter Vincent van Gogh, made a film that criticized Islam's treatment of women. Authorities found him shot and stabbed to death, and a five-page manifesto declaring holy war pinned to his chest with the same knife used to stab him.

An Iranian newspaper recently sponsored a "contest" asking for submissions of anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying cartoons. One showed the Statue of Liberty holding a book on the Holocaust in one hand and giving a Nazi-style salute with the other. The reaction? No Jews rioted, no Jews committed kidnappings, no Jews engaged in beheadings.

Meanwhile, the website TheReligionofPeace.com records deadly terror attacks committed by Islamo-facists since 9/11/2001. The tally, as of this writing, stands at 5,870.

So there you have it. The West, says the pope, pursues reason without faith – and Westerners failed to riot. But when the pope accuses Islam of pursuing faith without reason – Islamo-fascists demand an apology ... or else.



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Al-Qaida in Iraq issued this death threat: "You infidels and despots, we will continue our jihad and never stop until God avails us to chop your necks and raise the fluttering banner of monotheism when God's rule is established governing all people and nations. ... [The cross-worshipper pope] and the West are doomed. ... We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose the jizya [non-Muslim] tax; then the only thing acceptable is a conversion [to Islam] or [being killed by] the sword."

Well, I would rather die for my Lord Jesus !!!



Revelation 20:4 - And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
 
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but it wont happen god will prevail i have full confidence in that. infact he alreayd has i just comfort myself knowng that alla, muhamed are false prophets ofsatan and so are fighting loosing battle! we have already won the war.

Oh, it will happen. Christians are already hated and the world will end,but not before we're shunned and excommunicated, persecuted and killed. And it's happening now.
 
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[FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+2]Death threats from the 'religion of peace'[/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=-1]Posted: September 21, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

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Pope Benedict XVI, during a speech in Germany, at a university where he used to teach, quoted a 14th-century Byzantine Christian emperor: "He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.' ... Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. 'God,' the emperor says, 'is not pleased by blood – and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats.'" And, the pontiff even condemned violent jihad, or "holy war."

Note that the pope, in a very lengthy speech critical of the growing secularization of the West, devoted only three paragraphs to the subject of jihad. Moreover, the pope repeatedly said that those words were not his own. And later, the Vatican said the pope intended only to spark dialogue and that the emperor's words in no way reflected the thoughts of the pope himself.
How did some adherents to the religion of peace react?

Angry riots, death threats, burning of the pope in effigy and demands for an apology.
Somali Muslims shot an Italian nun who worked in a Somali hospital. They shot her four times in the back as she left the hospital, and as she lay dying on the ground, she muttered in Italian to her killers, "I forgive, I forgive."

Firebombs were hurled at seven churches during one weekend in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. One group demanded a televised apology, or they would blow up all of Gaza's churches.

As usual, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a "moderate" pro-Arab organization, condemned the pope's words, but not the violent reaction to them.
The deputy leader of the Turkish prime minister's party said, "He is going down in history in the same category as leaders such as Hitler and Mussolini."

Al-Qaida in Iraq issued this death threat: "You infidels and despots, we will continue our jihad and never stop until God avails us to chop your necks and raise the fluttering banner of monotheism when God's rule is established governing all people and nations. ... [The cross-worshipper pope] and the West are doomed. ... We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose the jizya [non-Muslim] tax; then the only thing acceptable is a conversion [to Islam] or [being killed by] the sword."

Following this violent reaction, the pope, at his weekly Angelus blessing this past Sunday, used the word "sorry." Sorry, that is, for the violent reaction to his words. Still, the pope refused to retract his statements. And why should he? After all, the violent reaction proved his point in ways the pope's words never could.

Now, what about stateside? Editorials in two major American newspapers criticized – the pope! In an editorial chastising the pope for alleged insensitivity, the Los Angeles Times said, "The pope shouldn't be quoting people who call [Islam] 'evil.'" The editorial concluded, " ... opes need to watch their words when they have political consequences."

Calling the pope a "doctrinal conservative," the New York Times said, " ... [H]is greatest fear appears to be the loss of a uniform Catholic identity, not exactly the best jumping-off point for tolerance or interfaith dialogue. The world listens carefully to the words of any pope. And it is tragic and dangerous when one sows pain, either deliberately or carelessly."

So this is where we are. The people behind the publication of the "offensive" Danish cartoons fear being seen in public, lest they suffer the fate of filmmaker Theo van Gogh. Van Gogh, a descendant of the painter Vincent van Gogh, made a film that criticized Islam's treatment of women. Authorities found him shot and stabbed to death, and a five-page manifesto declaring holy war pinned to his chest with the same knife used to stab him.

An Iranian newspaper recently sponsored a "contest" asking for submissions of anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying cartoons. One showed the Statue of Liberty holding a book on the Holocaust in one hand and giving a Nazi-style salute with the other. The reaction? No Jews rioted, no Jews committed kidnappings, no Jews engaged in beheadings.

Meanwhile, the website TheReligionofPeace.com records deadly terror attacks committed by Islamo-facists since 9/11/2001. The tally, as of this writing, stands at 5,870.

So there you have it. The West, says the pope, pursues reason without faith – and Westerners failed to riot. But when the pope accuses Islam of pursuing faith without reason – Islamo-fascists demand an apology ... or else.



Source www.wnd.com
Let me ask you this.What happenes when the believer in Jesus Christ,dies for his or her witness?
 
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that didn't even put a dent in America. (it was a major event though)

Really, 3,000 dead, Airlines shut down for days, creation of a new batch of government employees, Hardly a dent?

The only thing we have to worry about is a few nuts getting nuclear weapons inside the US.

Only if you look at it as a matter of scale. To me one Islamo [SIZE=-1]Fascist with an AK in a mall is bad enough.
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Let me ask you this.What happenes when the believer in Jesus Christ,dies for his or her witness?

Do you mean what if they refuse to convert to islam and get their head removed as a result? I think we all know the answer to that one. But, what is your point? Are you saying we should just roll over and let the islamist have their way?
 
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Do you mean what if they refuse to convert to islam and get their head removed as a result? I think we all know the answer to that one. But, what is your point? Are you saying we should just roll over and let the islamist have their way?
Let's just get a grip here.What is the Goal of Christianity?Is it not to get into heaven?That's why we embrace Jesus Christ.If we do his two commandments.We will enter heaven.If we don't do them.Then what?Will we enter heaven anyway?Are we able to dictate policy to God?Or,is it the other way around.We're afraid.Why are we afraid?Are we not saved?Is this entire scenerio not written?Did Jesus not promise us that if we endure until the end,doing his commandments,that we will be saved?Do we say that Jesus is a liar?Or, are we afraid because we are not about to do his commandments,knowing in our heart's what the result of that is.We can't fight our way out of hell.Only by faith are we saved.
 
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Dr. Ergun Caner (former muslim) here at Liberty University, in one of his sermons, said that the muslim response to the Pope was "the most retarded thing I have ever heard"
I agree. Why would you fight against someone saying that you are violent with a violent reaction? It doesnt make any sense!
"Im not violent, take that back or i'll burn down your house!!"
 
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