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I don't where this person got that idea but I haven't found anything about Catholicism which is wrong. I was raised a Baptist but left them as a teenager. After a few years I settled on TV evangelism.I was talking to a Roman Catholic the other day and I felt myself getting annoyed because this person was telling me things about Revelations that are wrong. For example, saying that the book of Revelations is what the Catholic mass is based on? What? I left behind the Catholic faith. I don't particularly want to go back. Anyway, the issue here is I get annoyed when talking to people to are wrong and insist they are right. I don't want to be like this. Any suggestions?
Also--- is Catholicism wrong? Catholics believe in Jesus and stuff, but in your opinion, what parts of their beliefs and rituals do you find erroneous or unnecessary?
Don't go back and don't talk to them if you don't want to be annoyed more.I don't particularly want to go back. Anyway, the issue here is I get annoyed when talking to people to are wrong and insist they are right. I don't want to be like this. Any suggestions?
Also--- is Catholicism wrong? Catholics believe in Jesus and stuff, but in your opinion, what parts of their beliefs and rituals do you find erroneous or unnecessary?
I was talking to a Roman Catholic the other day and I felt myself getting annoyed because this person was telling me things about Revelations that are wrong. For example, saying that the book of Revelations is what the Catholic mass is based on? What? I left behind the Catholic faith. I don't particularly want to go back. Anyway, the issue here is I get annoyed when talking to people to are wrong and insist they are right. I don't want to be like this. Any suggestions?
Also--- is Catholicism wrong? Catholics believe in Jesus and stuff, but in your opinion, what parts of their beliefs and rituals do you find erroneous or unnecessary?
You don't like talking to people who are wrong. Are you every wrong?I was talking to a Roman Catholic the other day and I felt myself getting annoyed because this person was telling me things about Revelations that are wrong. For example, saying that the book of Revelations is what the Catholic mass is based on? What? I left behind the Catholic faith. I don't particularly want to go back. Anyway, the issue here is I get annoyed when talking to people to are wrong and insist they are right. I don't want to be like this. Any suggestions?
Also--- is Catholicism wrong? Catholics believe in Jesus and stuff, but in your opinion, what parts of their beliefs and rituals do you find erroneous or unnecessary?
Anyway, the issue here is I get annoyed when talking to people to are wrong and insist they are right.
And Scott Hahn is not particularly persuasive anyway. His view of Protestantism is an exercise in stereotypes and his writings mainly reiterate what any person who has attended an inquirers class pursuant to joining Hahn's new church would be told to believe.
I was talking to a Roman Catholic the other day and I felt myself getting annoyed because this person was telling me things about Revelations that are wrong. For example, saying that the book of Revelations is what the Catholic mass is based on? What? I left behind the Catholic faith. I don't particularly want to go back. Anyway, the issue here is I get annoyed when talking to people to are wrong and insist they are right. I don't want to be like this. Any suggestions?
Also--- is Catholicism wrong? Catholics believe in Jesus and stuff, but in your opinion, what parts of their beliefs and rituals do you find erroneous or unnecessary?
Well, it's a matter of knowing the material and being able to show them the proof to their faces. Of course, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it. There are lots of misinformed Catholics out there, who are taught that the Catholic teaching is right because it's Catholic, and that's that. If it's not from a Catholic source, it's automatically not something they trust even in objective matters of church history, and if it is, they don't know what to do with it. I remember a discussion I had with a Catholic once who denied that Rome called for violence upon Protestants. I linked him a copy of Exsurge Domine from a Catholic site which proves that Leo X did, and I don't think I ever heard from him again.Anyway, the issue here is I get annoyed when talking to people to are wrong and insist they are right. I don't want to be like this. Any suggestions?
I'm Protestant, so yes I believe they are wrong. Not full-blown heretical wrong, but wrong. The Gospel can be found within their teachings, the problem is you have to dig through so much stuff to get to it. As for what would be useful to you, there's a gap between what the Roman Catholic Church "officially" teaches and what many Catholics believe that it teaches. This gives me the option of providing strawmen when listing teachings I have heard rank-and-file Catholics claim, and posting official teachings I disagree with that the rank-and-file Catholics don't necessarily believe. If there's a specific issue you want to bounce off of me though, you can PM me.Also--- is Catholicism wrong? Catholics believe in Jesus and stuff, but in your opinion, what parts of their beliefs and rituals do you find erroneous or unnecessary?
Sure, ask them if this is an official binding interpretation or their own interpretation? If they assert the former, ask them for the substantiation. Then you can ask them for the basis of their assurance that the RC church is correct over that of any opposing interpretation. Then deal with the usual self-destructive logic.I was talking to a Roman Catholic the other day and I felt myself getting annoyed because this person was telling me things about Revelations that are wrong. For example, saying that the book of Revelations is what the Catholic mass is based on? What? I left behind the Catholic faith. I don't particularly want to go back. Anyway, the issue here is I get annoyed when talking to people to are wrong and insist they are right. I don't want to be like this. Any suggestions?
Indeed it is wrong. Catholic distinctives are not manifest (see link) in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed, and including how they understood the OT and gospels, and she has many contradictions.Also--- is Catholicism wrong? Catholics believe in Jesus and stuff, but in your opinion, what parts of their beliefs and rituals do you find erroneous or unnecessary?
It is also about worship, which is what the Catholic extrapolates to support her unScriptural Mass. For in Catholicism Scripture is often an abused servant that is compelled to support Rome. Ever see what lengths they must go to in order to support their tradition of prayer to created beings in Heaven , seeing as there is not one single prayer by believers to anyone else in Heaven but the Lord (who instructed praying to the Father) , despite the Holy Spirit inspiring the recording of over 200 prayers in Scripture, and this being a most basic essential practice, and there always being plenty of created beings in Heaven to pray to.That is just the author's opinion. Revelation is about how the world ends.
I would agree that there are a lot of misinformed Catholics but that is no different than any other church. I would like for the Church to do a better job of teaching young Catholics what the Church's doctrines are so they understand better.Well, it's a matter of knowing the material and being able to show them the proof to their faces. Of course, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it. There are lots of misinformed Catholics out there, who are taught that the Catholic teaching is right because it's Catholic, and that's that. If it's not from a Catholic source, it's automatically not something they trust even in objective matters of church history, and if it is, they don't know what to do with it. I remember a discussion I had with a Catholic once who denied that Rome called for violence upon Protestants. I linked him a copy of Exsurge Domine from a Catholic site which proves that Leo X did, and I don't think I ever heard from him again.
I'm Protestant, so yes I believe they are wrong. Not full-blown heretical wrong, but wrong. The Gospel can be found within their teachings, the problem is you have to dig through so much stuff to get to it. As for what would be useful to you, there's a gap between what the Roman Catholic Church "officially" teaches and what many Catholics believe that it teaches. This gives me the option of providing strawmen when listing teachings I have heard rank-and-file Catholics claim, and posting official teachings I disagree with that the rank-and-file Catholics don't necessarily believe. If there's a specific issue you want to bounce off of me though, you can PM me.
You'd say then, that God accepts Protestants' faith and that Protestants have God's Spirit?I was raised Baptist and then evangelical through TV ministries but called by God into the Catholic Church. I personally don't like debating doctrine because the important thing is that God accepts our faith and yours as well. The proof lies in the possession of God's Spirit.
I never heard him calling anybody goons. I would like to see the quote on that.I agree. Scott Hahn turned me off as a Catholic big time! He was one of many writers/commentators who drove me away. His caricature of Orthodox Christianity being a bunch of weird bearded ethnic goons couldn't have been further from the truth. In a way I thank Hahn, because his caricatures and silly overgeneralizations got me oriented toward Christ's First, True Church---The Orthodox Church.
Yep.You'd say then, that God accepts Protestants' faith and that Protestants have God's Spirit?
Yeah, I don't know what it is about me. The person with whom I was conversing must have read this book by Dr. Hahn. I can handle debating with atheists, and those of other religions, but for some reason, I get really really annoyed when I speak with other Christians/Catholics who are wrong and come off as if they are the ones who are correct. Particularly Catholics---I was on a date with a guy one time who lost interest in me the second I revealed I wasn't Catholic. He acted like I was some sort of heretic, and claimed that the 12 disciples of Christ were Catholics! Even though Catholicism did not even exist in Jesus' time.
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