Constitutionality of Biden's Impeachment

[Arcangl86]

So something occurred to me. Most of the talk about impeaching Biden is around his supposed actions as Vice President right? But he's no longer Vice President. And many Republicans claimed during Trump's second impeachment that he couldn't be impeached or tried because he was no longer in office. So doesn't that mean that Biden can't be impeached for anything that may have happened when he was VP?

 

[HTacianas]

So something occurred to me. Most of the talk about impeaching Biden is around his supposed actions as Vice President right? But he's no longer Vice President. And many Republicans claimed during Trump's second impeachment that he couldn't be impeached or tried because he was no longer in office. So doesn't that mean that Biden can't be impeached for anything that may have happened when he was VP?

See Spiro Agnew.

 

[JustOneWay]

See Spiro Agnew.

Agnew was never impeached. How is he similar to Biden?

 

[Yttrium]

So something occurred to me. Most of the talk about impeaching Biden is around his supposed actions as Vice President right? But he's no longer Vice President. And many Republicans claimed during Trump's second impeachment that he couldn't be impeached or tried because he was no longer in office. So doesn't that mean that Biden can't be impeached for anything that may have happened when he was VP?

I don't think that's really comparable. With Trump, there wasn't much point in impeaching him after he already left office. (Although he could conceivably have been prevented from running again.)

If we found that a president had committed a serious crime in the past, like murder, we would want him out of office so he could be arrested for it.

 

[essentialsaltes]

So something occurred to me. Most of the talk about impeaching Biden is around his supposed actions as Vice President right? But he's no longer Vice President. And many Republicans claimed during Trump's second impeachment that he couldn't be impeached or tried because he was no longer in office. So doesn't that mean that Biden can't be impeached for anything that may have happened when he was VP?

I think the GOP's argument was that the main punishment is removal from office, so it was moot by the time of the second impeachment. (However, the secondary punishment of disqualification from future office was obviously not moot.)

When the crimes occurred doesn't seem to be an issue.

 

[JustOneWay]

I don't think that's really comparable. With Trump, there wasn't much point in impeaching him after he already left office. (Although he could conceivably have been prevented from running again.)

If we found that a president had committed a serious crime in the past, like murder, we would want him out of office so he could be arrested for it.

There was a point of impeaching trump after he left office. If the republicans would have voted for impeachment of trump, he would no longer be able to hold a federal position. We wouldn't be here talking about him every day.

 

[Pommer]

This round of “let’s impeach!” is fueled by the notion that “Joe is crooked”.

All else stems from this idea.

Some Biden made money!?
Investigate until what scam they were doing is revealed!

And hold a lot of press-conferences to tout “evidence”.

Joe took the train home to Delaware on the weekends because he was playing the long con.

Sure thing.

 

[JSRG]

There was a point of impeaching trump after he left office. If the republicans would have voted for impeachment of trump, he would no longer be able to hold a federal position. We wouldn't be here talking about him every day.

Impeachment removes someone from their position, but I don't think it forbids them from holding it in the future. I believe you have to re-impeach them to remove them again.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Impeachment removes someone from their position, but I don't think it forbids them from holding it in the future. I believe you have to re-impeach them to remove them again.

It can be (but doesn't have to be) a two-step process:

Conviction immediately removes the defendant from office. Following the vote on conviction, the Senate may by a separate vote also bar the individual from holding future federal office, elected or appointed.

 

[A2SG]

Agnew was never impeached. How is he similar to Biden?

The DOJ wanted to indict Agnew on charges of criminal conspiracy, bribery, extortion, and tax fraud, and seemed to think they had a strong case with evidence and everything, despite Agnew maintaining his innocence continuously and promising to never resign. Eventually, Agnew pleaded no contest to a single charge of tax evasion and resigned.

I don't know of any similarities between Agnew and Biden, though.

-- A2SG, but your mileage may vary....

 

[Pommer]

The DOJ wanted to indict Agnew on charges of criminal conspiracy, bribery, extortion, and tax fraud, and seemed to think they had a strong case with evidence and everything, despite Agnew maintaining his innocence continuously and promising to never resign. Eventually, Agnew pleaded no contest to a single charge of tax evasion and resigned.

I don't know of any similarities between Agnew and Biden, though.

-- A2SG, but your mileage may vary....

On the plus side, this scandal got Bill Safire to come up with “nattering nabobs of negativism”, for Ford’s predecessor.

 

[A2SG]

On the plus side, this scandal got Bill Safire to come up with “nattering nabobs of negativism”, for Ford’s predecessor.

Say what you want about Agnew, but that's a great phrase!

-- A2SG, no question.....

 

[Pommer]

Say what you want about Agnew, but that's a great phrase!

-- A2SG, no question.....

And Spiro nailed the delivery, too!

 

[Belk]

So something occurred to me. Most of the talk about impeaching Biden is around his supposed actions as Vice President right? But he's no longer Vice President. And many Republicans claimed during Trump's second impeachment that he couldn't be impeached or tried because he was no longer in office. So doesn't that mean that Biden can't be impeached for anything that may have happened when he was VP?

If you are looking for consistency, politics is the wrong place to try to find it.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

On the plus side, this scandal got Bill Safire to come up with “nattering nabobs of negativism”, for Ford’s predecessor.

Ford erred in pardoning Nixon imho.

 

[Pommer]

Ford erred in pardoning Nixon imho.

Nixon was popular, though, with the people.
Politicians didn’t like Nixon because his actions reflected poorly on them all.
Ford’s choice was to allow Nixon to face the full brunt of the criminal charges or the pardon which allowed the 37th retire in peace.