This.Coming from a specifically Christian and as biblical position on this as I can...
The time of the end has been with us for the last two thousand years, St. Peter was clear on this in his sermon in the second chapter of the Acts of the Apostles. Two thousand years have come and gone, and another two thousand years could come and go. It's not ours to speculate over times and seasons, neither is it ours to worry about tomorrow, as tomorrow has its own problems.
Nation has risen against nation and kingdom against kingdom since the first man who hurled a rock against his neighbor; these things will continue right up until history is concluded.
Our prayer is to be what Christian prayer has always been: "Thy will be done."
There have always been people who think they have recognized the "signs of the times", for many that was when Rome was sacked by the Vandals; for many it was the Muslim armies marched on Byzantine lands; still others when the Black Death spread across Europe; then there was the first world war. And so on it goes.
Rather than trying to divine the future, our energy is better spent toward constructive pursuits: obedience, faithfulness, loving our neighbor, helping the poor, feeding the hungry, being a people of gentleness and kindness in imitation of Jesus Christ.
Apocalyptic-mania is a toxic obsession. Flee from it.
-CryptoLutheran
Hmm ...Early human history is very big passion for me. Whackos like von Daniken and Giorgio Tsoulakis are not scientists. They are not knowlegeable regarding history. Even your own quote said "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", which Däniken fails to provide."
There simply is NO evidence for ETs coming to earth and influencing human history. None. It is crazy. Beyond crazy. It is flat out stupid.
Apocalyptic-mania is a toxic obsession. Flee from it.
-CryptoLutheran
No worries this time 'round as one is a godless Marxist and the other a godless cult member. However in four years we'll have to deal with Santorum again...On a related note, one thing I worry about with electing Christian presidents is that they will believe we are living in the end-times and will act accordingly to this belief.
So much yes.
On a related note, one thing I worry about with electing Christian presidents is that they will believe we are living in the end-times and will act accordingly to this belief.
There is simply NO evidence to prove that ETs never came to earth and influenced human history. None. To make such a claim is flat out stupid. Know what I mean?
So ... you believe von Daniken's argument?That's an argument from ignorance. What is your point?
So ... you believe von Daniken's argument?
The critics claim he hasn't proven the case though ... which is true enough.It seems reasonable.
Not all Christians believe in 'The end times'.
In fact I'd say the vast majority do not.
Thank you, Richard. Your pointed, sharp and ever dry sarcasm is always so refreshing, especially when it's out of place. Then again, you hold to humanistic views, so I guess you're right on target for your own beliefs.
If he is not your King why do you wish to be one of his Kingdom?
This is not just a term lightly bantered around in your scripture. He says he is your King. He spared your life when you too his. He is supposed to be in your heart, his will your will.
Will you not be subject to your King?
Yeah? And who says she's not? Look, if you're going to set yourself up as the Chief Pharissee of this board, tossing stones at Christians because you think their moral behavior is lacking, it seems that the least you could do is point out the alleged bad behavior of the Christian in question.
And you don't need to keep capitalizing "King." We get it. He calls Himself "shepherd, vinedresser, the Son of Man, the Son of God, King of Kings, the Potter, the Redeemer, Light, Love, Truth, the Lamb of God," and many other names. But you like "KING," because it gives you a chance to hurl judgemental rhetoric at those whom you have deemed to be imperfect subjects to this King.
But here's a little advice: No way you can match the Holy Spirit in manifesting the shortcomings of believers in order to bring them to the attention of the believers. The Spirit has inside knowledge of our sins. You don't. You're just a nag, and no one pays heed to nags.
.
Your KING sir spared your life when you murdered him.
Your KING sir you say is in your heart.
Your KING sir you say his will is your will.
That is what all The Christians say. Now is it true or just words to placate your KING?
I have seen her and you and others that call themselves Christians on here say that they follow their KING. And yet have shown in many posts a decided lack of The Second Great Commandment.
If you REALLY believe that book that you love so dearly, then WHY don't you follow the Second Great Command? What is so hard to do that when you say that Jesus is in your heart and soul. That his will is your will? That the Kingdom is NOW within you.
If that is so then the second should be a cakewalk.
But it is not. From hurling stones at your fellow Christians when they don't believe in your way and hurling them at non-Christians in ways that YOU do not like when done to you!
YOU are all supposed to be Light to This World. Well bring it out from under your bushel. SHOW your light!
What is even more interesting is that these verses were referenced in one of the first replies on this thread and in Post 10, the OP thanked us for the reminders of praying the Lord's Prayer.
Most Christians pray this prayer in worship at the very least. Sometimes we need the reminder that this is the best prayer of all and we should use it in situations such as the OP was asking, which, as I said, she acknowledged later was right.
I didn't get why disciple2011 posted it again in the way he did either.
The Bible tells us to be conscious of His coming - it tells us to look for the signs. It also says there are special Blessings for those watching - we are to be a watchman on the wall.
So many prayers. So wrong. And yet these pious thinking people believe they are just fine.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
-Matthew 24:24
No worries this time 'round as one is a godless Marxist and the other a godless cult member. However in four years we'll have to deal with Santorum again...
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?