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<blockquote data-quote="Redac" data-source="post: 62149349" data-attributes="member: 195952"><p>That you ignored the context of the discussion I was having prior to you joining in is not my fault. I was discussing "black" names and the difficulty people with those names can have; if you jump in and start talking about how people perceive strange names as indicative of stupid or irresponsible parents, it's natural for me to make that connection. </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Your links even agree with me that the names perceived as "black" or otherwise not perceived as "white" are the ones that struggle the most in job applications. </p><p> </p><p></p><p>It's an English rendering that is widespread enough among various racial groups that it isn't perceived as being typical of one group or another. That this occurs a lot does not mean that there are not many names that occur the majority of the time in one group over others, or even just the perception of it. How many white guys do you know with the name Jamarcus, for example?</p><p> </p><p></p><p>It's a non-English, non-European name that occurs primarily in Arab communities or black communities. On the other hand, I don't imagine there are many white people with that name that aren't Muslims. This automatically it's it into the "unusual or foreign" category for many people, and that perception does make it more difficult for people. Heck, your above link even mentions that names like Rasheed and Kareem didnt really work in the study. </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Why? I've met both. Do you think if the "white" names had such choices as "Binky" "Kiki" or "Bubba" that the results would've been a little different? </p><p> </p><p>As an aside, I personally dislike the name Lakisha. It really has no true origin and thus, no real meaning. I've seen it said to mean a cinnamon tree, alive, favorite, and many other things. Then again, I'm an Onomaphile.</p></blockquote><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What? Condoleezza is not an Italian name; it is a corruption, to use your own term, of an Italian musical term, <em>con dolcezza</em>. Unless I and the Italians (from Italy) that I know are mistaken, Condoleezza or variations thereof do not appear in the Italian language. </p><p></p><p>And exactly how many Condoleezzas do you know or have heard of? Because if it weren't for Rice, I'd bet you and many others would find it a lot stranger.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Redac, post: 62149349, member: 195952"] That you ignored the context of the discussion I was having prior to you joining in is not my fault. I was discussing "black" names and the difficulty people with those names can have; if you jump in and start talking about how people perceive strange names as indicative of stupid or irresponsible parents, it's natural for me to make that connection. Your links even agree with me that the names perceived as "black" or otherwise not perceived as "white" are the ones that struggle the most in job applications. It's an English rendering that is widespread enough among various racial groups that it isn't perceived as being typical of one group or another. That this occurs a lot does not mean that there are not many names that occur the majority of the time in one group over others, or even just the perception of it. How many white guys do you know with the name Jamarcus, for example? It's a non-English, non-European name that occurs primarily in Arab communities or black communities. On the other hand, I don't imagine there are many white people with that name that aren't Muslims. This automatically it's it into the "unusual or foreign" category for many people, and that perception does make it more difficult for people. Heck, your above link even mentions that names like Rasheed and Kareem didnt really work in the study. Why? I've met both. Do you think if the "white" names had such choices as "Binky" "Kiki" or "Bubba" that the results would've been a little different? As an aside, I personally dislike the name Lakisha. It really has no true origin and thus, no real meaning. I've seen it said to mean a cinnamon tree, alive, favorite, and many other things. Then again, I'm an Onomaphile.[/QUOTE] What? Condoleezza is not an Italian name; it is a corruption, to use your own term, of an Italian musical term, [I]con dolcezza[/I]. Unless I and the Italians (from Italy) that I know are mistaken, Condoleezza or variations thereof do not appear in the Italian language. And exactly how many Condoleezzas do you know or have heard of? Because if it weren't for Rice, I'd bet you and many others would find it a lot stranger. [/QUOTE]
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