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Completed Wisconsin recount widens Donald Trump's lead by 131 votes
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<blockquote data-quote="aachen_hexagon" data-source="post: 70558860" data-attributes="member: 393304"><p>Yet EVEN then a ruling that <em>can</em> be overturned is still a valid ruling so long as it is NOT overturned.</p><p></p><p>Sheesh. That honestly seems like it should be obvious to you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Do you honestly think that every single court ruling has to go all the way to SCOTUS to be completely settled? Really? You'll be surprised that the Law is OVERWHELMED by rulings that have never gone to SCOTUS. Do you think they aren't valid rulings?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct. <em>But in this case where a 4-4 tie was hit it results in the lower court ruling standing</em>. Even if it didn't establish precedent. (There's even rulings that SCOTUS made that are open to interpretation, SCOTUS kind of kicked the can down the road in some cases. It's not like precedent has to be established every time SCOTUS rules.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>4% of 28 known cases since 2000. That honestly doesn't seem like a lot to me.</p><p></p><p>Look, I'm MORE THAN HAPPY to institute Voter ID requirements. But that means MORE taxes and MORE money to keep DMV's open in underserved areas no matter the cost. It also means that getting birthcertificates and other foundational documents now also be free (more cost).</p><p></p><p>I'm ALL FOR VOTER ID'S. They make sense. I'm simply pointing out that they don't seem to justify the extra cost but I'm more than willing to pay it if it helps ease everyone's mind. Are you?</p><p></p><p>Now, that being said, if we fix voter ID fraud then we MUST investigate ALL instances of potential fraud. Otherwise it looks like there was an <strong>arbitrary choice of what fraud is most important.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>It certainly has nothing to do with gross numbers unless we investigate ALL potential fraud with equal fervor.</p><p></p><p>(staff edit)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aachen_hexagon, post: 70558860, member: 393304"] Yet EVEN then a ruling that [I]can[/I] be overturned is still a valid ruling so long as it is NOT overturned. Sheesh. That honestly seems like it should be obvious to you. Do you honestly think that every single court ruling has to go all the way to SCOTUS to be completely settled? Really? You'll be surprised that the Law is OVERWHELMED by rulings that have never gone to SCOTUS. Do you think they aren't valid rulings? Correct. [I]But in this case where a 4-4 tie was hit it results in the lower court ruling standing[/I]. Even if it didn't establish precedent. (There's even rulings that SCOTUS made that are open to interpretation, SCOTUS kind of kicked the can down the road in some cases. It's not like precedent has to be established every time SCOTUS rules.) 4% of 28 known cases since 2000. That honestly doesn't seem like a lot to me. Look, I'm MORE THAN HAPPY to institute Voter ID requirements. But that means MORE taxes and MORE money to keep DMV's open in underserved areas no matter the cost. It also means that getting birthcertificates and other foundational documents now also be free (more cost). I'm ALL FOR VOTER ID'S. They make sense. I'm simply pointing out that they don't seem to justify the extra cost but I'm more than willing to pay it if it helps ease everyone's mind. Are you? Now, that being said, if we fix voter ID fraud then we MUST investigate ALL instances of potential fraud. Otherwise it looks like there was an [B]arbitrary choice of what fraud is most important. [/B] It certainly has nothing to do with gross numbers unless we investigate ALL potential fraud with equal fervor. (staff edit) [/QUOTE]
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