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Aside from that point;

Do you think it possible to receive either on the tongue or hand with the same attitudinal disposition of reverence in ones heart?

What else does God care about?

If you feel yourself unworthy to touch the Body of Christ and must instead have a priest feed it to you, then you are humbling yourself before God.
 
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Whether you touch with the hand or touch with the tongue, it's still touching.

You're also touching it if you step on it to grind it into the ground. What's your point?

Receiving on the tongue is the greater act of humility, eliminates the risk of particles being lost, and is not a modernist invention.
 
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If you feel yourself unworthy to touch the Body of Christ and must instead have a priest feed it to you, then you are humbling yourself before God.

I am expressing neither agreement or disagreement to that statement.

I do not see how that answers the questions:

Do you think it possible to receive either on the tongue or hand with the same attitudinal disposition of reverence in ones heart?

What else does God care about?
 
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So when Father chews the host he has sinned?

Is that what you are saying?

No one has forgotten anthing.

It might not be a sin, but it is still the Body of Christ. I'm sure that being bitten hurts more than not biting at all.
 
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Please answer:

Do you think it possible to receive either on the tongue or hand with the same attitudinal disposition of reverence in ones heart?

What else does God care about?

Personally, I think on the tongue develops a greater reverance and respect.

If on the hand developed as great a reverance then people would be converting to "on the tongue" so as to respect Jesus' body and avoid any chance of profaning His body.

But we all have to develop our own understanding and reverance, huh?
 
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Reverence and respect come from the heart. So, its possible for a person to show the same level of reverence and respect regardless of which method they use to receive Holy Communion.

To suggest that one method is more reverent than another, is to set up the divisions that these debates always create and it suggest that the person who opens such debates, actually lacks the humility that is presumed.



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I think I see what you are saying. You are saying one feels reverance. But what I am thinking is that we think and feel and that when we have both of these increasing in knowledge and love, that our reverance will be both emotional and greater understanding. It is the understanding part that I was speaking of.
 
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Reverence is understanding in your heart that you are receiving the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ and that you are united with him in his body, blood, soul and divinity.

It matters little if I receive from the hand or on the tongue, the point is what is going on in the sacrament itself.

I don't begrudge anyone who desires to receive on the tongue. But I've had it with those who do who continually open threads like this to tell those who receive on the hand, that they are not being reverent and respectful and should stop.

Its the highest act of religious arrogance.

Jim
 
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Understanding and love have to be joined. Without love it is worthless.

But to receive in the hand is to have His body in our hand. Our unworthy hands. It is also to place His body in the hands of those that have little or no reverance for Him in the sacrament of the Eucharist.

"I am not worthy to receive You, but only say the Word and I shall be healed"
 
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Understanding and love have to be joined. Without love it is worthless.

and both come from the heart.

But to receive in the hand is to have His body in our hand. Our unworthy hands. It is also to place His body in the hands of those that have little or no reverance for Him in the sacrament of the Eucharist.

Its not our hands that make us unworthy, but what comes out of our mouths.

But Jesus loves us irrespective of our worth, and those who focus on their unworthyness, often look at others as being even less worthy, especially those who receive Holy Communion in their hands.



"I am not worthy to receive You, but only say the Word and I shall be healed"

Yup, and the trads managed to get the new translation changed away from that statement which is the essense of what we are doing into;

Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof,but only say the word and my soul shall be healed."


Jim
 
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Jim,

Your post seemed like you were trying to say a lot in a few words and I think I did not get it all.

Maybe I need to rephrase my posts as well?
For me I think that when a Church uses the "in hand" method that they are bound to give the Body of Jesus to someone that will not recognize it as the Body of Jesus. In this situation we will see the Body of Christ being treated like a cracker and the Body of Christ will be profaned. I think it only possible to give the Body in the Hand when the recipient is knowledgable and has love for God and His Real Presense in the Eucharist. Otherwise we allow our God to be profaned by the ignorant and/or hard of heart.

But that is my personal opinion. I think it covers all you are trying to protect and support.
 
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JacktheCatholic;

For me I think that when a Church uses the "in hand" method that they are bound to give the Body of Jesus to someone that will not recognize it as the Body of Jesus.

Reception on the tongue doesn't prevent this. People mimic what other's do. If everyone is receiving on the tongue, so will they.


Same is true of reception on the tongue. Just because some one receives on the tongue, doesn't mean they actually know what they're doing.

Threads like this prove that reception on the tongue isn't a guarantee of a person's faith.


Jim
 
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