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Certainly does. There are a number of good Colleges / Universities in the world that teach MJism. However, the problem is not that the teaching is not available from sound Universities and Colleges it is that there are not enough people wanting the teaching. There are plenty of good teachers of MJism who work in local congregations rather than in Colleges because there isn't the demand from people for the courses. It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation. I was invited, some 15 or so years ago, to write a descriptor course on it for a UK teaching College - the plug was pulled because the Senatus found that not enough students would sign up for the course! There are a number of top Universities running courses on Christian / Jewish relations or on Jewish studies, which can easily accomodate MJism, but the take up is usually just 2 or 3 people a year at 2nd degree level and they are therefore under threat. At first degree level, Ed Kessler in the UK has made in-roads into Cambridge University and his courses are now available to all students training for ministry in the Cambridge Federation of Theological Colleges; he offers courses on Jewish/Christian relationships up to PhD. This is what we need to see happening on a wider scale and not just for theology students, as good as that is.
It's out there - we just need MJism people to ask for the courses and then the Colleges & Universities will offer them. You can get degrees in just about anything nowadays - golf course management for example! How many people could possibly be employed in managing a golf course because they have a degree in it! So degrees can be made available if the need is seen to be there. If the need is there modules could also be taken without locking into a degree course.
I agree with you. Things have changed because they broke the covenant laws.
Jeremiah 31
New International Version (NIV)
31 The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to them,
declares the Lord.
33 This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
Deuteronomy 31:26
Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
The commandments were placed inside the Ark. The Mosaic laws of the festivals and priesthood were placed on the side of the Ark.
Hosea 2:11
I will stop all her celebrations: her yearly festivals, her New Moons, her Sabbath daysall her appointed feasts.
Daniel 9:27
He will confirm a covenant with many for one seven. In the middle of the seven he will put an end to sacrifice and offering.
Jesus made it very simple for us when he ascended - He said I leave you with two commandments - Have no other Gods before me and love your neighbor as yourself. If these two commandments are followed, it covers all the rest.
Jesus made it very simple for us when he ascended - He said I leave you with two commandments - Have no other Gods before me and love your neighbor as yourself. If these two commandments are followed, it covers all the rest.
It is truly the best summarization of the commandments of God.. but it doesn't change the details of what it means to love God and love your neighbour, in the how, who, what, where, why, and when.Jesus made it very simple for us when he ascended - He said I leave you with two commandments - Have no other Gods before me and love your neighbor as yourself. If these two commandments are followed, it covers all the rest.
I think the description lays within the quotes. If you have no other Gods your desire to worship the one true God will overwhelm any other possibility.
If you love your neighbor as yourself - there would be no needs that would not be met, you would be there to help anyone you come in contact who has any kind of need. So when God says these two commandments are the greatest, they cover all of them.
Jesus made it very simple for us when he ascended - He said I leave you with two commandments - Have no other Gods before me and love your neighbor as yourself. If these two commandments are followed, it covers all the rest.
The Good Samaritan parable (Luke 10:25-39) - one of the most powerful parables ever - simplifies things even further. And it's not something Yeshua alone noted, seeing that it is a parable that Rabbi Heliel already noted previously since he had the same mindset as Christ did when it came to acceptance of Gentiles within Judaism as he/others saw it (more discussed here and here at Hillel and The Good Samaritan | Think Hebrew or Yeshua and Hillel - Nazarene Space). Christ was asked about what the greatest commandments were in the Mosaic Law---and after stating what they were, he was challenged by another on it....at which point Christ pointed to a Samaritan (considered to be idolatrous, half-breed/mixed people related to the Jews) as the one living out what the Lord wanted more than all of the others one would have expected to be examples, as was the case with the Levite and the priest. People often miss the significance of the Samaritan culture in what it symbolizes, as they practiced their own version of Judaism, and lived side by side with the Jews of Israel. Despite the striking similarities in religion, appearance, and language between the two people, they were treated by the xenophobic occupants of that ancient land as foreigners. For Jews, to be called a Samaritan meant in more general terms: a despised foreigner. To be called such was a deep insult, with the Jewish people even calling Christ one when denouncing him ( John 8:47-49 )....and yet for Christ, it was a honor to identify with them as well as love them/spread the Gospel to them and see them as fellow believers (more discussed here in #31 , #35 ,#52, #53 , #77, #78 , #85, & #95 ).Jesus made it very simple for us when he ascended - He said I leave you with two commandments - Have no other Gods before me and love your neighbor as yourself. If these two commandments are followed, it covers all the rest.
Just wanted to give the quote from scripture.
Mark 12:28 One of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, “What commandment is the foremost of all?” 29 Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord; 30 and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
The first or great commandment is a quote from the Tenakh and is actually quoting the Shema.
oopsy, I replied prior to seing yours and David's responses, lol. Oh well......
Let me clarify: I wasn't trying to find a loophole and my mind was already made up that whatever commandments that could apply to me (whether they be considered "Hebrew" or "Gentile"), that I would follow, because it's like someone said, it's about what makes Him happy...not us.
I was just curious as to what you guys know about this separation and why certain commandments would NOT apply to Gentiles like Feasts and Dietary Law. It doesn't make sense to me that if eating a certain way is bad for Jews, it would not be bad for Gentiles...and, the same with celebrating the Feasts.
The Noahide Laws were set down in the Talmud so if you have an issue with them, you've got to blame the writers of the Talmud - not Messianics. It isn't true that there aren't any dietary rules. The main law being that you shouldn't tear meat from a living animal. That get's broken down into not causing any unnecessary pain for an animal. You can break that down in all sorts of ways.
As for the difference in dietery laws for Jews and non-Jews the Jewish view is not that non-kosher food isn't dangerous or unhealthy. It's that Jews have their own set of rules because they are Jews. That simple. To eat a home raised rabbit is not "bad" for us but it is not a part of our traditions, culture and our laws. We must exercise constraint in what we eat.
Part of it was probably to deter Jews from eating with non-Jews and therefore doing other things with non-Jews.
You obviously relate to, or read, very doubtful sources! There are many sound academics out there if you look for them -find out where their qualifications come from and how that Institution is rated internationally. That will give you a good idea of how well trained they are.
Very few people, sadly, attempt to do any exegesis on Revelation - it is unlikely that you will come across many sound analyses of that book, beyond Chapter 3! I am therefore not in the least surprised that you find little by way of any connection between the first and last parts of The Book. That is not a good means of measuring a person's academic ability - Revelation is renowned as the most difficult of books.
Look at the list in the sticky at the head of these fora where many good books and authors can be found about MJism. There are a few academics on here, by the way.
I think the scholar's knowledge or rather "practice" of the Torah is a good means of measuring a person's understanding of scripture not necessarily their academic ability. A man may be able to remember a set of facts, and be able to make an intelligent arguement from those facts but that does not mean that this man truly understood what occurred and why it occurred. The more you "practice" something the more familiar you become with the content. Most reputable colleges/universities assess your knowledge; they do not teach you how to practice. Let us hear Yeshua:
Matthew 23
Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
It is one thing to learn a particular subject matter of interest; it is entirely another to put what you learn and are taught about Torah into practice.
I made no "scandalous generalisation" some programs require an "internship" to complete a teaching program for example.
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